Whats new in 2.0

[BadBoyBill]

Just gonna make a post on what kinds of things you guys can expect in HS2.0. I usually dont respond in the feature request area, but that doesnt mean I don't read it. A lot of feature request are planned or have already been filled in my build.

Changes that are already done:

-Vertical and non stretched Widescreen support, 1280x720 native.
-Start on sub menu's in multi mode.
-Search system, search by name, company or year.
-Multi-User favorite system.
-AVI intro video support.
-Intro images, up to 2 images, with fade timing by the user.
-New Parental Controls system.
-New Operator Menu
-Disable menu items from within HS.


-Wheel speed can be tuned by number instead of low, med, high.
-Center wheel image can be x and y offset per your own value.
-Fixed the wheel image layering, center image is highest.
-New wheel algorithm to calculate wheel positions, wheel is perfectly round now.
-That allows for spread factor now, number setting to spread images on wheel further or closer together.
-Wheel smoothing is now allowed, no more slightly jagged wheel images.
-Vertical and Horizontal wheels are positioned by number now, not left right, center.
-You can set the exact amount of 3d rotation on the wheel now, for wheels that it applies to. Not left and right like it is now.
-Fixed pin wheel backwards rotation.
-New dynamic wheel reflections. Lot's of adjustment settings to get the best reflect look you want.
-New coverflow wheel style.

-New text engine, to create even better looking text in HS.
-Text now has kerning options.
-Triple strokes now possible.
-Text no longer cutoff on wheel, set the max characters.
-Can italic text.
-Justifty text on wheel now, left, center.
-Add highlights to text, adjustable angle and size.
-Double the fonts.
-Add copyright symbol to manufacturer names.
-Tons of text cleanup options. Remove parenthesis, format brackets, remove secondary manufacturers, ensure first letter is uppercase, format company type, remove question marks etc...
-Multiline game descriptions now possilble for really long names.

-Special art is now coded artwork. No more external files. Everything is customizable from inside the settings.
-Set your own special art text, "Next Game", "Previous Game" etc..
-Special art can now use variables, total games, current genre, current system in that text.
-Can specify the joystick color now per wheel.
-Other options besides a joystick, such as xbox 360 controller, keyboard keys, arcade buttons, rectangle arcade buttons. All animated.
-Up to 15 special artwork slots, with many customizations per slot.
-Change arcade button colors, support multi color buttons.
-Built in graphics for buttons, such as 1 player guy, "Admin", "Start", "Pause" , etc.. like the inserts you would buy or make.
-Option to not animate out special art B
-Sped up default settings.

-Revamped the genre system to work on main xml, no more extra xml's.
-Supports unlimited genres per game.
-Genre wheel now gets its own special artwork settings. "Next Genre", "Previous Genre" etc...

-Added a performance monitor.
-New keys: Delete Key, Random Game, Operator Menu, Search


Above are just some of the stuff added to HS expect a lot more.

Here are some screenshots to explain the new special artwork stuff, this is just a small sample of what you can do, changing the modifier options in the settings can achieve many results. You can even change the keyboard keys color if you really wanted to. Everything is per wheel and even the genre wheel can have their own settings and everything below is animated in some way.

http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP1.jpg

http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP2.jpg

http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP3.jpg

http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP4.jpg

http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP5.jpg
http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP6.jpg

http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP7.jpg

http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP8.jpg

Sharper stroking on text, up to 3 strokes:

http://www.hyperspin-themes.com/images/hyperspin/wip/HSP9.jpg

[garwil]

O.M.G. I cannot wait for this!

[Babymaggie]

That's wicked BBB - Lots of even more hard work gone into making this wonderful FE the best.

Sweet!

Thank you sooo much.

[ntk]

great job! really looking forward to this one

need beta testers ?

[81ramirez]

WOW! Incredible job! I have just two questions:
-Will HS now have a tri layer background viewer to support themes with background transparency like we discussed in this thread?: http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9309
-Will it support .avi for video snaps?
Anyway it's looking awesome.

Your app already raised our hobby to another level, but with this changes... WOW.
Thanks.

[Goalies Rule]

Very, very nice. Cant wait!

[Secret80'sMan]

Amazing! With the added buttons any chance for a control panel view option? Something as simple as pressing a button that would bring up a GIF of what either the arcade control panel looks like or perhaps one of an image that we can generate ourselves. That way while the theme is playing you could press C for control panel for example and have a picture pop up of what buttons someone has assigned for that particular game. All we would need would be the parameters to adhere to (gif no larger than 600k and 400x200 for example).

This would be huge for guys with arcade cabinets (including me) who have a ton of buttons on their control panel and often forget what buttons they assigned for that particular game.

Certainly not trying to throw more on to your plate so if this isn't in the cards ignore my request but I know this would propel the front end into the stratosphere, higher than it already is. Phenomenal work Bill, I'm blown away. The irony of my HS use is that I spend as much time just looking and configuring my wheel and favorites as actually playing the game. It is actually that much fun!!!

[monkeysez]

As Borat would say waaa waa wi wahh.

[Dazz]

-Will it support .avi for video snaps?
No, .avi's do not play well with flash applications. .avi's can't be skewed, rotated or stretched like an .flv can. .flv also has a smaller filesize at a greater resolution. .flv is more flexible for the needs of HyperSpin.

[81ramirez]

No, .avi's do not play well with flash applications. .avi's can't be skewed, rotated or stretched like an .flv can. .flv also has a smaller filesize at a greater resolution. .flv is more flexible for the needs of HyperSpin.

Ok, I'm just asking 'cause of the "-AVI intro video support." part.

[Dazz]

Ok, I'm just asking 'cause of the "-AVI intro video support." part.That's just for the INTRO video.

[BadBoyBill]

The avi intro is just there because of a few complaints of choppy intro's. Hopefully this helps some people with that.

[Trnzaddict]

I'm seiked about the 360 controller animation. I just picked one up recently for pc.

Talk about a change list too, holy crap.

Can wait!

[Omnibus]

Amazing cannot wait! Thank you for Hyerspin and all the work that goes into it! :cheers:

[IrishKrush]

Awesome!

[ntk]

any chance there will be support for second screen ?

[Dazz]

any chance there will be support for second screen ?This has been discussed in the past. I don't think he's worked on this part yet, but it's something that I'm definitely looking for and I think Bill is building a multi-screen cabinet as well. So, hopefully we'll see multi-monitor support.

[brolly]

HyperSpin gets better and better, impressive list of new features.
What about support for multi disc games? Any chance this could still be pushed into v2.0?

[RetroBorg]

Sounds like the best front end is getting even better.


-Vertical and non stretched Widescreen support, 1280x720 native.

Does that mean there will need to be one theme for each screen type?

Or will the current theme be able to be used in all different screen types?

[Dazz]

Sounds like the best front end is getting even better.



Does that mean there will need to be one theme for each screen type?

Or will the current theme be able to be used in all different screen types?New themes will need to be created for both Widescreen and Vertical.

[garbanzo]

-New coverflow wheel style.

WOW that's gonna be cool!

I can picture my new theme already. Horizontal coverflow wheel on top with 2D box scans as wheel art. Subtle reflection. Video and cart art below. Simple black background with maybe a system logo or console image in the corner someplace. Clean and minimalistic...

[BadBoyBill]

You got the idea right there.

[RetroBorg]

New themes will need to be created for both Widescreen and Vertical.

So does that mean each game will probably end up having four themes?

Horizontal (4:3)

Horizontal (widescreen)

Vertical (4:3)

Vertical (widescreen)

[Dazz]

I don't think vertical widescreen is necessary. But yes, horizontal, widescreen and vertical themes will need to be created.

[BadBoyBill]

Oh ya , I've added a new global settings feature that youre all going to really like. Basically you have a new settings file called Global Settings.ini.

If any setting for any system is set to use_global (which every setting will be by default in the install) then it reverts to the global setting in the Global Settings file.

For example : You want every wheel to be a vertical style wheel. Instead of changing the setting in every single system to vertical, you can simply just change the one setting in the global settings file then every wheel will adopt that setting if the setting in that systems file says use_global for that setting.

Now if you wanted one system to be horizontal wheel style, then you can go into that specific systems setting file and change it from use_global to horizontal and that wheel setting will be overridden.

Sorry if that doesnt make sense, kinda hard to explain.

Example

Global Settings.ini
[wheel]
alpha= 1
small_alpha= 1
style= vertical
speed= 2
large_width= 330
small_width= 200

MAME.ini - will use all the settings above
[wheel]
alpha= use_global
small_alpha= use_global
style= use_global
speed= use_global
large_width= use_global
small_width= use_global

Atari Lynx.ini -will use all the setting above except for wheel style
alpha= use_global
small_alpha= use_global
style= horizontal
speed= use_global
large_width= use_global
small_width= use_global

[bLAZER]

These are some excellent features indeed!

What about this one? http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6753

[BadBoyBill]

I'll look at that when I get to the video code. Thanks for the reminder, Im sure fixing this will break many themes though.

[bLAZER]

Well, you could add a parameter, 3DViewMode or something like that,that defaults to how it is now.

[shateredsoul]

just wondering, will mapping multiple keys to one function be added at some point (past 2.0 even)? I have a combined streetfighter and neo geo layout, and would love the ability to make all 7 buttons work as "enter" or "launch" (I can't remember the actual key name right now. I'm not on my cab pc.

I really like the random game button you added ! really nice idea.

[oooPLAYER1ooo]

Hey bill
is it possable to be able to set a default transision per system
say I wanted the Brick smash to happen whenever I change game on the nes wheel.
Or is that feature already there and I didn't know ?

[Dazz]

Hey bill
is it possable to be able to set a default transision per system
say I wanted the Brick smash to happen whenever I change game on the nes wheel.
Or is that feature already there and I didn't know ?I really do like this idea a default transition would be great.

[manhill]

this is great news, and i`m really looking forward to version 2.0!
whats even better: we get a vertical layout.

now see, i am running a cocktail-table with vertical mounted monitor. my question:

most pc-games are developed for horizontal game-experience and an option to rotate the screen is missing. could you make it possible to implement a feature in "hq" to rotate the screen by 90 degrees when starting a pc-game out of hyperspin?

best regards,

manhill

[burntcircuit]

I for one do not welcome the new version. It means I have to spend time setting up everything again and spend a ton of money to re-pimp my cabinet I'm sure. (god I'm so excited for the new version). What I'd really love to see is a hyperspin that has a built in torrent to update things on its own defined by what games you select for it, I'd pay well for that, lol.

[alphaviper7]

This is awesome!

[Ptaz]

Can't wait to see it guys, cheers keep up the good work!

:beerglass:

[jeepguy81]

On the note of vertically oriented themes, will HS rotate the wheels as needed? Or any other special graphic placements. Just wondering if the vert themes i'm making might still be viable when 2.0 comes out.

[BadBoyBill]

HS will act the same in vertical as it does horizontal. HS does all the rotating for you.

[EvilDindon]

Wow.

Thanx for all your work.

Can't wait to dl this new version as I recently built from scratch a 70% pacman-cab replica with vertically oriented monitor, so this new HS will be the perdect FE for it.

[Fiasco]

Hey BBB, any idea on a release date? I really like some of the new features and can't wait to try it out.

[bLAZER]

Like most software developers I'm guessing "When it's done."

[kostas-civic]

I guess it will be something like a Christmas gift; :fisheye:

I believe will feel as nice as the version1. Even I remember how much I enjoyed when i woke up that morning and saw the email that version 1 had just come

[EvilDindon]

I guess it will be something like a Christmas gift; :fisheye:

I believe will feel as nice as the version1. Even I remember how much I enjoyed when i woke up that morning and saw the email that version 1 had just come

+1 lol

Every HS release is like a great event for me. Great emotions, heart beating and stuff like that.

But the 2.0 will probably be the most importaht for me, cause I've just done a 70 % pacman cab replica and i will be finally able to instal HS on that vertical mounted monitor cab. ;)

[akiles500]

I have seen that in the new version H.S 2.0 the xml files will be differents.Is there any program that create xml files with the new structure for HS 2.0 automatically like this?:

game name,description,cloneof,crc,manufacturer,year ,genre,rating,enabled

[baddy]

+1 lol

Every HS release is like a great event for me. Great emotions, heart beating and stuff like that.

But the 2.0 will probably be the most importaht for me, cause I've just done a 70 % pacman cab replica and i will be finally able to instal HS on that vertical mounted monitor cab. ;)

And the theme you're making looks freaking sweet too ;)

I'm not the only one from gamoover here apparently :D

[Hallis]

I know this was asked somewhere on the forums but can't remember which post and wanted to find out if it was being included anyway. Will there be an option, setting, or some kind of automated thingie that will parse out the games that it cannot find in the provided folders? For instance if i only have the roms for Super Mario 3, Zelda, and RC Pro-Am in my NES rom directory will it prune out all the other names? That is little of an extreme example as i have several hundred roms. I just wanted to find out if it will automatically remove ones that it can't find.

Shane

[beavis]

Is there analog joystick support so I don't have use joy2 key program everytime.

[Layer0730]

Is there analog joystick support so I don't have use joy2 key program everytime.

I guess it depends on the controller. Both my wired and wireless Xbox360 controllers have analog support in HS.

[beavis]

I guess it depends on the controller. Both my wired and wireless Xbox360 controllers have analog support in HS.

Ok I hope it includes 2 ULTRASTIK 360 support in HS

[Secret80'sMan]

Ok I hope it includes 2 ULTRASTIK 360 support in HS

YES! YES! Ultimarc U360 support please!

Thanx...

[BadBoyBill]

U360 support has been around since like 2 versions ago.

[djvj]

They want it again BBB!

[ntk]

YES! YES! Ultimarc U360 support please!

Thanx...
in hyperhq you need to enable the joystick

BBB give us more from the new ver like pic, video anything! we can not wait:party:

[glitchtoast]

This might be good :)

[mng70]

2.0 should be awesome! :-)

[popolus]

would be nice to be able to assign a sound to load a game and another sound to exit the game:top:

[beavis]

U360 support has been around since like 2 versions ago.


Well without joy2key I can't get it to accept the analog stick. It wasn't until I used joy2key to get it working. Unless I'm doing something completely wrong.

I wonder how many users use U360 controllers without joy2key just hyperspin by itself. Please comment if you are or not.

[Goalies Rule]

Well without joy2key I can't get it to accept the analog stick. It wasn't until I used joy2key to get it working. Unless I'm doing something completely wrong.

I wonder how many users use U360 controllers without joy2key just hyperspin by itself. Please comment if you are or not.

Ummm I have U360's, but havent hooked them up yet, so I dont use joy2key...yet :D

[ntk]

Well without joy2key I can't get it to accept the analog stick. It wasn't until I used joy2key to get it working. Unless I'm doing something completely wrong.

I wonder how many users use U360 controllers without joy2key just hyperspin by itself. Please comment if you are or not.


I use 360 without joy2key and i already told you what to do

"in hyperhq you need to enable the joystick"

[Mozee]

Excuse me if this has been answered already, but when's the expected release period on this bad boy?


I must be the only one glad to see a Random game button. I think that's one of the coolest things. As much as I love the HS front end, sometimes I would really like letting my cabinet sit on the "insert coin" attract screen of an actual game and feel like a real arcade machine. Just a personal preference.

Would still like to see an option for HS to boot up to a random or selected game on startup, and maybe even boot into a random game when inactive for a certain period of time. But hey, that's just a silly preference of mine and this is good enough for now :).

Can't wait for this, Real great to see you've all been listening to the fans. It won't be long before Hyperspin is both the most visually attractive and technically versatile of any cabinet FE. Keep it up guys! :)

[bewts]

Looks awesome! Search function sounds pretty amazing.. This will help alot when friends come over and they can just search what they want to play instead of going through 30 or more games. Cant wait for the release!

[ceekay011]

Nice :)

[The Loafer]

Popping in, checking around, reading this thread, freaking out. Wow man, well done and great progress! Looking forward to the new release, hopefully I'll get the chance to actually set it up this time! :(

Oh yeah, "hi everyone!" :)

[Secret80'sMan]

U360 support has been around since like 2 versions ago.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that because I couldn't get it to work but I tried it a few days ago and works just fine, thank you. :embarassed:

DJVJ's comment made me laugh, "they want it again".

[Garebear911]

Damn, it doesn't seem like it's been almost a year since v1.0 came out

[jahilton2002]

strange question, did i read somewhere that you could edit (eg add remove roms from wheel menu) whislt in hyperspin, almost like a password protected admin mode. would be great if i could remove roms as and when i find them.

[Dazz]

strange question, did i read somewhere that you could edit (eg add remove roms from wheel menu) whislt in hyperspin, almost like a password protected admin mode. would be great if i could remove roms as and when i find them.In 2.0 you will be able to.

[willzer*]

Just began looking at hyperpin in the last few days and really like the option to shut down the pc when exitin the program , anyone know if this will be added to Hyperspin 2.0, think its a nice feature ya know.

*Edit* when do you think you can release 2.0 bill, just a rough date, time would be real nice.

Hyperspin is sooooooooooo good :-) Love it!

[jahilton2002]

thats great news dazz.... i can skip mame for the time being then :D

[Dazz]

Just began looking at hyperpin in the last few days and really like the option to shut down the pc when exitin the program , anyone know if this will be added to Hyperspin 2.0, think its a nice feature ya know.

*Edit* when do you think you can release 2.0 bill, just a rough date, time would be real nice.

Hyperspin is sooooooooooo good :-) Love it!No date... when it's ready.

[Tricky]

Wow, that sound awesome. It sounds like it will be highly customizable which would make it perfect for my classic PC gaming HS I'm working on.

[circletheory]

First post, but I've been a member for well over a year now. LOVE HS. Anyways, on to my question ... !

I just finished reading through all the new features of HS 2.0. I'm REALLY excited about it. However, I was wondering if the new version of HyperHQ will support modification of the folder paths instead of using the browsing feature. The reason this feature is critical for me (and maybe others?) is that I like to keep folder paths relative to where things are running; thus eliminating the need to specify drives and such. For example, I have a test platform of HS on my desktop PC which I make sure everything runs smoothly. Then I copy the files over to my HTPC where my 52 inch TV is. The only problem is I have to re-run HyperHQ to re-establish ROM paths, Video Paths, etc on that PC again. It would be nice if a user could just hand-modify the paths directly in HyperHQ, or simple use the relative paths.

Anyways, if this isn't in there, it's no biggie. That feature definitely will not make or beak me from not using HS. Was just wondering ... Keep up the FANTASTIC work!!!

[bLAZER]

You can get around this by mapping networks folders, so that for example I: maps to C:\blabla\Hyperspin on one computer and to F:\My stuff\Games\Hyperspin\ on the other. Works fine for me.

[jahilton2002]

You can get around this by mapping networks folders, so that for example I: maps to C:\blabla\Hyperspin on one computer and to F:\My stuff\Games\Hyperspin\ on the other. Works fine for me.

i use mapped drives also works great

[blackielee13]

I'm seriously more excited about the new hyperspin than i am about any current-gen game coming out this year...I'm still a newb, but HS has taken over my free time. My girlfriend will attest to this. Kudos to the HS team...as they've truly done something magical!

[jahilton2002]

I'm seriously more excited about the new hyperspin than i am about any current-gen game coming out this year...I'm still a newb, but HS has taken over my free time. My girlfriend will attest to this. Kudos to the HS team...as they've truly done something magical!

i can relate to that, my mrs has to book sexy time with me..... hs come first (no pun intended)

[circletheory]

I'll have to agree with you guys there. HS has definitely eaten up any spare time I have. It's not just playing the games, but setting up, customizing, making artwork, finding artwork, optimizing here and there. It's tedious work. But the thing is, it's SUPER FUN to work on. It's never ending and just eats up all your time.

[bLAZER]

Hehe, I can SO relate to everything you guys wrote...

[willzer*]

No date... when it's ready.

Never rush a good thing!

Any news if the shutdown pc function will be added to 2.0?

[Truc]

Never rush a good thing!

Any news if the shutdown pc function will be added to 2.0?

OK, it's time that somebody answer to your question. It already exists in Hyperspin 1. Look in HyperHQ, Startup/Exit, Exit Action... :flute:

[willzer*]

Ah great, thanks very much

[Dan the Man]

Is this new version bringing any performance improvements? I'm just curious how this will run on my current hardware. Are we going to see "more refined software" = "faster performance" or "new features" = "slower performance" on this release?

[Dazz]

code is more streamlined... things that took 20,000 lines of code is down to a couple hundred. Since testing I really haven't seen much change in performance, but I'm also more focused on testing the HD version right now.

[Dan the Man]

code is more streamlined... things that took 20,000 lines of code is down to a couple hundred. Since testing I really haven't seen much change in performance, but I'm also more focused on testing the HD version right now.

Hows the memory footprint look compared to the current version?

Honestly, I haven't touched any arcade stuff for what feels like forever, but this new release of Hyperspin has me all excited to get back into the great arcade games again.

[jahilton2002]

HD version right now.


:party:

[jahilton2002]

LOL thought i'd post this here as i dont really wanna start another thread LOL

i've started to dream about HS 2.0!!!!

in the dream a UPS man knocked on my door and asked me to sign for the box..... which was as big as a car!!!!

really random LOL

i was disappointed to find that in themorning after i woke, im my car was still in the driveway and not HS 2.0 :D

[dark]

How difficult will it be to update databases from 1.0 to 2.0?

I kinda like my xml's the way I have them setup now, will they still work?

[Dazz]

How difficult will it be to update databases from 1.0 to 2.0?

I kinda like my xml's the way I have them setup now, will they still work?

Existing databases will work, but you will loose functionality that the new databases have such as enable/disable roms from the game list, ratings, etc.

[akiles500]

Dazz with is program of a friend me can easily update the databases to version 2.0.The program is List Generator v1.3.0.0 and is in Spanish and translate to English for me:

http://www.insertcoins.es/

Enjoy it

[Cinemastique]

I'm a little confused about the "search" function. Will we have the option to "search" either inside system menus or search all of Hyperspin? I sincerely hope we'll be able to do both.

It would be neat to enter the NES menu and be able to find "Mario," for example, but it would be AWESOME to be able to type "Street Fighter II" at the Main Menu and get results with ALL the arcade and console versions to choose from!

[Dazz]

Inside systems only.

[Cinemastique]

Inside systems only.

Aw. Is that due to only being able to search within specific .dat files?

I can't imagine a complete search feature is one Bill would choose
to leave out if it were feasible.

At any rate, still super psyched for the release of 2.0!

[jahilton2002]

anychance of some new screenshots of HS2.0 BBBill? .... think i know what your gonna say, and i wont hate you for it, just thought i'd ask. :D

[gargoyle67]

Is there going to be a number\letter prompt when whizzing through the wheels ?
So you know to stop on a certain letter, anybody that uses xbmc will know what I'm talking about:cool:\

[Dazz]

Is there going to be a number\letter prompt when whizzing through the wheels ?
So you know to stop on a certain letter, anybody that uses xbmc will know what I'm talking about:cool:\No, but it's not hard to add one even with HS1.

[gargoyle67]

How would I go about that ? It would involve some sort of custom script ?
Thanks Dazz.

[kronic24601]

@Dazz,

So, there will be a normal version and an HD version of HS as well? Is it a configuration change, or a totally separate platform. Also, to be HD, I'd imagine it would require a totally different set of images/movies ect... or are you planning on pulling the stuff that is already there? (I know Circo makes Standard & High quality movies).

I currently have one arcade with a standard arcade monitor, so 800x600 is my max. But I was thinking about building a second.

If all this information is posted already, I apologize for not reading it all through (but if you could point me in the right direction ...)

[Garebear911]

More themes would have to be created


So does that mean each game will probably end up having four themes?

Horizontal (4:3)

Horizontal (widescreen)

Vertical (4:3)

Vertical (widescreen)


I don't think vertical widescreen is necessary. But yes, horizontal, widescreen and vertical themes will need to be created.

[Avar]

I noticed it said that multiple intro images were going to be possible on fade. Would it be possible to have the alternative option of doing it on command as well? It'd be awesome if we could hit a button to switch between front/back box images for example <3

[B2K24]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I think it would be really cool feature for 2.0 if a key press could change from 2D to 3D boxarts if both versions of the boxarts exists in different paths in real time when your spinning the wheel.

[Avar]

I like that idea too. I used to be a GameEx user but I like HS waaaaay better (best FE by far imo). The only thing I miss is the ability to toggle between artwork with a button (eg. darken the screen and bring up box/disc/cart images and read the game's history). The history thing was a nice touch for the nostalgia and loaded from a database imdb style. I don't miss it that much but that'd be a nice addition to HS. Sorry I can't remember more details about how the game history thing worked

[nezzah]

I like that idea too. I used to be a GameEx user but I like HS waaaaay better (best FE by far imo). The only thing I miss is the ability to toggle between artwork with a button (eg. darken the screen and bring up box/disc/cart images and read the game's history). The history thing was a nice touch for the nostalgia and loaded from a database imdb style. I don't miss it that much but that'd be a nice addition to HS. Sorry I can't remember more details about how the game history thing worked

I like the history idea like XBMC, could hot-link consoles or distributers or whatever. I've never thought to look up a game history database, but from a quick search I found 2:

http://www.mobygames.com/
http://www.arcade-history.com/index.php?page=database

I used donpachi and killer instinct as my search terms so I could attempt to get both US and JP games

furthermore I think you would have to store this history info locally like xbmc does as well. A lot of people run their cabinets offline, so it wouldn't do any good t ohave it fetch the info on the fly, you would essentially need to pre-compile all this info (like media companion or ember does)

[SophT]

this is an upstart, but it has a good API already, in the vein of themoviedb and thetvdb:

thevideogamedb.com

maybe they should just import some of our XMLs ;)

[Avar]

Speaking of movie/tv, I'm surprised there isn't a bigger base of people into movie themes. With a movie database the same caliber as MAME's theme database, it'd be unreal how awesome it could be as a media center.

[CASHMON3Y]

Speaking of movie/tv, I'm surprised there isn't a bigger base of people into movie themes. With a movie database the same caliber as MAME's theme database, it'd be unreal how awesome it could be as a media center.
There is a pretty expansive group of people who make movie fanart, which is really all that is needed. Individual movie themes would just be cluttered IMO.

[shateredsoul]

I guess it depends on what you're using hyperspin for. If you're using it for an arcade cabinet then you're probably not at all interested in having movies on it. If you're using it as a media center, then I can see why you'd be interested in that. Then again, why not just use xbmc and integrate it into the front wheel?

[Dazz]

Speaking of movie/tv, I'm surprised there isn't a bigger base of people into movie themes. With a movie database the same caliber as MAME's theme database, it'd be unreal how awesome it could be as a media center.Because we will not host the themes/artwork here. The MPAA are extremely proactive in shutting down sites that even host their images.

[Avar]

Man do we hate the MPAA...

[CASHMON3Y]

Doesnt everyone? Them and the RIAA

[Avar]

Indeed @_@

http://www.spike.com/video-clips/drlbzp/riaa-home-searches

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/808656/it_crowd_anti_piracy/

[evileye333x2]

I saw that someone mentioned about having a screen shot or a button assigned to bring up the original button layout. It would be really nice to know exactly what the layout was on the original arcade cabinet. This would be very helpful for assigning the button within specific Mame games.

Most games are pretty straight forward in regards to layout but MK3 for example was a pain because I couldn't remember how it was set up on the original CP.

Another benefit would be for guests or friends that may not be familiar with certain games and what buttons do what.

I just had another idea while writing this. Side by side comparison of the original button layout and how that translates to the buttons you have set up. Nothing fancy maybe just standard 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 layouts. I know everybody has their own layout but something that looks close and shows what buttons do what.

Just my 2 cents.

HS rules and I can't wait for 2.0. The already mentioned feature upgrades you have made in addittion to the fact you actually listen to the people who use HS is awesome.

Thanks again for all your'e hard work.

[CASHMON3Y]

I saw that someone mentioned about having a screen shot or a button assigned to bring up the original button layout. It would be really nice to know exactly what the layout was on the original arcade cabinet. This would be very helpful for assigning the button within specific Mame games.

Most games are pretty straight forward in regards to layout but MK3 for example was a pain because I couldn't remember how it was set up on the original CP.

Another benefit would be for guests or friends that may not be familiar with certain games and what buttons do what.

I just had another idea while writing this. Side by side comparison of the original button layout and how that translates to the buttons you have set up. Nothing fancy maybe just standard 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 layouts. I know everybody has their own layout but something that looks close and shows what buttons do what.

Just my 2 cents.

HS rules and I can't wait for 2.0. The already mentioned feature upgrades you have made in addittion to the fact you actually listen to the people who use HS is awesome.

Thanks again for all your'e hard work.
Agreed. I was actually going to print out some pictures that show what buttons go to what buttons for each system. Didnt think about a per game screen...

[Cinemastique]

I love the idea of having more options in the arcade layout (control panel, cabinet image, flyer, history).

The button layout thing might just be easier if there was a way to bring up the "control panel image," like you can in plain ol' MameUI. Huge archives of cabinet and control panel images already exist, after all.

[brolly]

Why not use CPWizard for that, isn't that one of it's functions anyway?

[garwil]

CPWizard is good but a bit slow and not very customisable in terms of graphics. It'd be nice to have something higher res and available both in the front end and in the emulator.

[Jallen]

I know when 1.0 came out there was a site revamp...is this true with 2.0?

[Dazz]

I know when 1.0 came out there was a site revamp...is this true with 2.0?I do not think so, but 2.0 still has a long way to go.

[Jay Ace]

Just out of curiosity, how far along is 2.0?

[Dazz]

Just out of curiosity, how far along is 2.0?It still has a LONG way to go... I wouldn't expect anything before the end of the summer.

[kronic24601]

doh! ... we'll I'd rather it wait and be more awesomer, than be too soon anyway. Keep up the good work HS team!

[Jay Ace]

It still has a LONG way to go... I wouldn't expect anything before the end of the summer.
I didn't really have any expectations, more curious than anything. Better to have it ready and implement all the strong features that are listed here than push it and release the broken FE.

[Dred]

Can we expect any surprises in the new release? I mean the list of features is just massive it seems like you listed everything you can think of.

Anyway just read all the upcoming changes and now its get me psyched up! Thanks =)

[nevsan]

This is probably already been posted somewhere (so delete if needed) but can we use our own fonts in Hyperspin 2.0? This would be awesome.. as I want to do a spectrum theme and there are many spectrum fonts (for PC) that have been made.

[bLAZER]

Yeah, I think custom fonts would e very nice feature as well to get the right feeling for every system.

[chartwel]

I am finally in the process of setting up my Hyperspin, by the time I get the entire cabinet done 2.0 will be out and I will be right back at it. Thanks for giving me a fun spring and summer project Hyperspin Team!

[jackhammersalm]

i am finally in the process of setting up my hyperspin, by the time i get the entire cabinet done 2.0 will be out and i will be right back at it. Thanks for giving me a fun spring and summer project hyperspin team!
lol!

[Dazz]

This is probably already been posted somewhere (so delete if needed) but can we use our own fonts in Hyperspin 2.0? This would be awesome.. as I want to do a spectrum theme and there are many spectrum fonts (for PC) that have been made.The fonts have to be added into the code and compiled in, so adding custom fonts isn't possible. I think there is a max of 5 fonts that can be added, but I am not 100% positive. If you have an idea for a font that could be added you can post the name of the font and perhaps it can be looked into being added.

[nevsan]

The fonts have to be added into the code and compiled in, so adding custom fonts isn't possible. I think there is a max of 5 fonts that can be added, but I am not 100% positive. If you have an idea for a font that could be added you can post the name of the font and perhaps it can be looked into being added.

http://www.dafont.com/zx81.font?text=hyperspin
This was the font I was hoping could be added. Its spot on and contains all the characters I'd like in my theme. I like these pixel themed fonts anyhow so including this one would be a nice contrast to the ones used previously.

:)

[nechestriah]

http://www.dafont.com/arcadepix.font

This would also be a good choice for many of the old 8-bit consoles. I use a font similar to this for the "jump to" letters in my NES wheel. I would love to see the other text able to be changed as well.

Here is another version:
http://www.dafont.com/arcade-classic-pizz.font

[SophT]

those look very much like system or mono.

[RaiV3R]

Woo! Can't wait for HS 2.0, I'm still tweaking and messing with 1.0, I can't imagine all the new awesome goodies for 2.0.

I do have a quick question, maybe I'm the only one at the moment that goes around removing the tags from the description, but would there be any possibility for 2.0 to have an option to show/hide the (USA)/(EUROPE)/(WORLD) tags?

Anyways, thanks for such an amazing frontend guys. :D

[BadBoyBill]

You can do that now, and the new 2.0 has even more naming filters mainly for MAME, but you can use an option called remove game info to remove the (USA) etc...

[RaiV3R]

Oh wow, I've been using HS for about 8 months now.. and I swear I never, EVER saw the "Remove Textfield Info". I feel like the biggest idiot in the world now.

Thanks for the heads up BBB!! Looking forward to the new features.

[Mozee]

whoops, delete delete...

[azda]

BBB,
Sorry if this has been asked before but ...

What is the best date estimate of the release of Hyperspin 2.0 please ... ?
Is all the current downloadable content (vids, box art etc) for HS 1.0 compatible with 2.0 ... ?

Keep up the excellent work ... !

[Dazz]

BBB,
Sorry if this has been asked before but ...

What is the best date estimate of the release of Hyperspin 2.0 please ... ?
Is all the current downloadable content (vids, box art etc) for HS 1.0 compatible with 2.0 ... ?

Keep up the excellent work ... !It will be released... whenever it's done and no sooner.

All current content should be compatible with 2.0.

[azda]

It will be released... whenever it's done and no sooner.

All current content should be compatible with 2.0.

Well that cleared that up :shot:

[Garebear911]

They don't know for sure. Dazz said somewhere not to expect it before the summer.

[Rain]

Either way, whenever it's released it'll be a good thing. I am happy as a clam with the current version. Even if it takes another year, at least we all know we will be receiving quality content.

[jahilton2002]

Either way, whenever it's released it'll be a good thing. I am happy as a clam with the current version. Even if it takes another year, at least we all know we will be receiving quality content.

+1 to that. HS is my second love*..... i really excited about 2.0. but i's be happy to wait a year or as long as it takes. keep up the good work.

*my arcade cab is my 1st :proud:

[Cinemastique]

They don't know for sure. Dazz said somewhere not to expect it before the summer.

END of the summer. ;-)

[Mozee]

So what's the chance we'll see the new HLSL graphics engine implemented in HS 2.0?

Hey someone had to ask...

[Dazz]

So what's the chance we'll see the new HLSL graphics engine implemented in HS 2.0?

Hey someone had to ask...Slim to none. HyperSpin is done in ActionScrip/Flash. 2.0 will probably be taking advantage of some of the newer features in Flash 10.2 though.

[Mozee]

Slim to none. HyperSpin is done in ActionScrip/Flash. 2.0 will probably be taking advantage of some of the newer features in Flash 10.2 though.

Aaaah perfectly understandable. It's not a priority at all, just thought it's interesting because I can really see it catching on as CRT monitors become more scarce.

All good though, since Hyperspin is intended to look incredible on any display. :top:

[WeedMan4lbg]

cool....

[marksteehler]

all xbmc users should check out angelscry and his front end work in the mean time... truly amazing

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=85724

[Dariusz]

Hi There

Just wondering if there has been any new WIP updates with Hyperspin? It is always interesting to know what development is happening before a public release is made.

Thanks

D.

[Dazz]

Hi There

Just wondering if there has been any new WIP updates with Hyperspin? It is always interesting to know what development is happening before a public release is made.

Thanks

D.I think all of the feature set have been nailed down. Progress has been made on the new HyperHQ, and it's looking quite feature rich. I'd post some screens, but not sure if he wants any posted just yet.

BBB works on HS in spurts so he doesn't burn out on programming. I don't blame him one bit! Lately he's been working on a personal project that he'll be posting in the near future. I'm sure once he's done with that project he'll jump right back into HS.

[svr]

Something I have been wondering when I have been configuring my Hyperspin is how backwards compatible will 2.0 be? Is there an installer that does everything or do I need to manually tweak everything again?

[Rain]

I don't actually think I will be switching over to HyperSpin 2. I am forever stuck in the past. At home I still use Ubuntu 8/Windows XP, ME & 2000. At work I use Windows XP & OpenSuse with KDE 3. I don't like change, perhaps whenever HyperSpin 2 becomes obsolete then I'll use it lol.

[Dazz]

I don't actually think I will be switching over to HyperSpin 2. I am forever stuck in the past. At home I still use Ubuntu 8/Windows XP, ME & 2000. At work I use Windows XP & OpenSuse with KDE 3. I don't like change, perhaps whenever HyperSpin 2 becomes obsolete then I'll use it lol.

Heh, I don't think that will be the case... 2.0 blows EVERYTHING that 1.x can do. There shouldn't be much to upgrading to 2.0 at all.

[BamBam]

No, .avi's do not play well with flash applications. .avi's can't be skewed, rotated or stretched like an .flv can. .flv also has a smaller filesize at a greater resolution. .flv is more flexible for the needs of HyperSpin.

Why won't .avi ever die? :motz:

[devilman646]

the only additional thing that i would ask for in version 2.0... dual monitor, marquees are cool but I am more interested in displaying instruction cards... who can remember all of the moves for Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Dark Stalkers AND everything else...

[gypsyshred]

the only additional thing that i would ask for in version 2.0... dual monitor, marquees are cool but I am more interested in displaying instruction cards... who can remember all of the moves for Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Dark Stalkers AND everything else...

Whos stopping you? Just assign the asset of the reference card instead of the marquee, if thats what you'd prefer. Why stop there? Maybe put in flyers, ads, sky is the limit. Are animations possible on the second screen? Maybe FLV support?

[northvibe]

ohhh sweet HS 2.0 and that should be about the time I build a MAME cabinet :) very exciting!

[chartwel]

I am hoping there will some type of borders/overlay for the system like mame games have, I dont like the look of the art in 1080p with it all stretched, but would like to take up my full 1080p screen and leave hyperspin at its default. With the fantastic artists on this site I know there would some awesome borders created for hyperspin or all the systems.

[Dazz]

I am hoping there will some type of borders/overlay for the system like mame games have, I dont like the look of the art in 1080p with it all stretched, but would like to take up my full 1080p screen and leave hyperspin at its default. With the fantastic artists on this site I know there would some awesome borders created for hyperspin or all the systems. The art isn't going to be stretched at 1080p. Bill has some other ideas in mind.

[RAO]

............-New keys: Delete Key, Random Game, Operator Menu, Search.............


¿Would this be for deleting games from the wheel within HyperSpin? :questionmark:

Regards.

PD: Today is the end of the summer he he he

[Dazz]

¿Would this be for deleting games from the wheel within HyperSpin? :questionmark:

Regards.

PD: Today is the end of the summer he he heIt doesn't delete the game. It just flags it as disabled in the database so it doesn't appear on your game list.

[RAO]

It doesn't delete the game. It just flags it as disabled in the database so it doesn't appear on your game list.

NIIIIICE!! Thanks! this will be my reason for upgrade :)

[Ggallery]

-Revamped the genre system to work on main xml, no more extra xml's.

Does that mean there wont have to be subfolders in the Databases folder for each system? That always seemed so unecessary until genres were added. If anything a folder shouldn't be there unless there you want to drop in some genre xml's. All the main default system xml's right inside the Databases folder.

It will still support our old FLV video formats right?

[djvj]

Gotta get away from FLVs and switch to the new MP4 format. There is a bad issue with flv that if freezes HS.

Pretty sure the database folders will still be there. Even if unnecessary. I never liked em either.

[BadBoyBill]

Does that mean there wont have to be subfolders in the Databases folder for each system? That always seemed so unecessary until genres were added. If anything a folder shouldn't be there unless there you want to drop in some genre xml's. All the main default system xml's right inside the Databases folder.

It will still support our old FLV video formats right?


We'll still keep the folders because your per system favorite files still need to go there and also I'm possibly adding support for alternate databases so users can quickly share top 100 lists and things like that.

were probably going to away with flv's since mp4's that are being made are smaller size and better quality and emumovies is going to stop making flv's in favor of a more universal format.

[rob3d]

We'll still keep the folders because your per system favorite files still need to go there and also I'm possibly adding support for alternate databases so users can quickly share top 100 lists and things like that.

were probably going to away with flv's since mp4's that are being made are smaller size and better quality and emumovies is going to stop making flv's in favor of a more universal format.

Alternate databases sounds awesome. I hope it makes it into the final release.

[Ggallery]

Pretty sure the database folders will still be there. Even if unnecessary. I never liked em either.

I don't mind if they're there as long as I don't need them to be and I can just drop my xml's into root and delete the folders. I like to start everything from scratch with some of my experiments so even the time making the folders let alone constantly navigating into them I don't like. And with extensive system lists to do a full on session it takes dual monitors and 4 Explorer windows open to not be having to scroll WAY up and down the directory listing as each time you click on say "Databases" this huge list of folders shoots down, like all the others (that DO need the folders), aside from Settings. I'd prefer it be hollow like Settings. I'd rather have that all the time and make custom 'system' themes once, to break up huge lists, than genres. But I'm a maniac of course.

[djvj]

That's exactly how I feel GGallery, for the same reasons. I feel your pain.

I get so tired of having to expand the database folder, the emu folder, and the module folder multiple times a night. Going into the Settings feels like a godsend. hehe

[BadBoyBill]

The first orignal HS didn't have sub folders for the databases, but as we expanded the features of HS we do need them now, there isnt just your database file in the folder, you haver your per system favorites files for multiple users and there will be similar shareable files coming possibly in the same format so users can share filtered lists, which will be going in the folders also.

[rrcade]

I don't know...

[shateredsoul]

I do know...

[netcat]

ANy idea when this may be released, also .. as mentioned in my post in general forum, and chance to send data for betabright and LCD panels through serial ports ?

[Dazz]

ANy idea when this may be released, also .. as mentioned in my post in general forum, and chance to send data for betabright and LCD panels through serial ports ?It will be released when it's ready. Also, 2.0 is not going to have betabright support.

[dark]

The new Genre setup sounds like...well the best!

I only setup 1 Genre (arcade classics) since I heard this was coming...and I look forward to it.

Hopefully I can make a smooth transition to 2.0 :)

[Invincer]

No betabrite support?? Really? Not even what was there before? That feels like a step backwards then, why take away a feature that was recently added when some people actually went out and bought betabrite signs just for their Hyperspin setups?

[Dazz]

No betabrite support?? Really? Not even what was there before? That feels like a step backwards then, why take away a feature that was recently added when some people actually went out and bought betabrite signs just for their Hyperspin setups?
Because... it's not compatible with the newer advanced features of 2.0.

Personally, if you ask me, the BB's look extremely tacky. I think the 2nd screen support should make up for the loss of BB support.

[Invincer]

Will there be at least a way to make it somewhat compatible, because this would be a deal breaker for me. I had a classic betabrite, went out and spent money for a prism when the new features were added for the prism betabrite; which were NOT easy to find to begin with, spent hours upon hours getting it working the way i wanted (and it had to have cost Bill a lot of time to get it working as well as he had also), and now with the new release it just isn't going to be able to be used anymore, to heck with all the people that went out and got the signs after the features were added to hyperspin to begin with?

And before anyone says "the software is free, you don't have to use it if you don't want to"; i know that. But i have been an avid supporter of Hyperspin. i have paid my subscriptions to the FTP and the emu FTP, i have bought every hypermart pack and would have continued to buy any and all expansion/add-on/etc. Maybe that doesn't matter much in the big picture; but it matters to me.

I also have a secondary monitor, and you have probably seen my youtube video of my setup. Is it tacky? most would probably say "very". But let's be real. How many people who have home arcades of "any" kind in their homes would probably be called "tacky" by the majority of people out there? I am a 43 year old video game player with a 72" home theater system and frankenstein arcade in my living room and i am proud of it. Tacky probably barely even begins to describe it...

(By the way, the old classic Betabrite displays messages under the 72" TV in XBMC.... heh heh heh)

[Dazz]

As far as I know... NO, Betabrite support has been and will not work with HS 2.0. This is a TECHNICAL limitation of the new compiling tools. BBB has stated that BB support will NOT BE POSSIBLE.

He'll jump in here and hopefully explain it better than I can.

[Circo]

It will be released when it's ready. Also, 2.0 is not going to have betabright support.

This is the only thing I am bummed about :(

[ntk]

Will there be at least a way to make it somewhat compatible, because this would be a deal breaker for me. I had a classic betabrite, went out and spent money for a prism when the new features were added for the prism betabrite; which were NOT easy to find to begin with, spent hours upon hours getting it working the way i wanted (and it had to have cost Bill a lot of time to get it working as well as he had also), and now with the new release it just isn't going to be able to be used anymore, to heck with all the people that went out and got the signs after the features were added to hyperspin to begin with?

And before anyone says "the software is free, you don't have to use it if you don't want to"; i know that. But i have been an avid supporter of Hyperspin. i have paid my subscriptions to the FTP and the emu FTP, i have bought every hypermart pack and would have continued to buy any and all expansion/add-on/etc. Maybe that doesn't matter much in the big picture; but it matters to me.

I also have a secondary monitor, and you have probably seen my youtube video of my setup. Is it tacky? most would probably say "very". But let's be real. How many people who have home arcades of "any" kind in their homes would probably be called "tacky" by the majority of people out there? I am a 43 year old video game player with a 72" home theater system and frankenstein arcade in my living room and i am proud of it. Tacky probably barely even begins to describe it...

(By the way, the old classic Betabrite displays messages under the 72" TV in XBMC.... heh heh heh)

1+++

I also have a secondary monitor for marquee and the beta brite prism, i think that a lot of people spent there money because the HS support and now 250$ just go to trash so i really hope this will change

[rrcade]

I agree that betabrite looks tacky, it looks like a convenience store sign that should be advertising 2 for 1 deals on twinkies the video marquees on the otherhand are a thing of beauty.

[Deemar]

Are you guys discussing a secondary display inside Hyperspin? That would be cool, I've really wanted to figure out a way to display a Mortal Kombat moves list for the characters you've selected. That would be sweet.

[netcat]

Dont look CHeesy to me

http://www.780tech.com/arcade/P9050094.JPG

http://www.780tech.com/arcade/P9050078.JPG

http://www.780tech.com/arcade/P9050077.JPG

without mentioning how extra oober cool the ability to display instructions to an LCD is

http://www.780tech.com/arcade/P9050066.JPG

http://www.780tech.com/arcade/P9050071.JPG

I still contend sending data to multiple Serial devices rulez.... and would love to see hyperspin support it, far as I know my machine is still one of two in the world capable of doing this, help a brother out, I woudl love to move up to hyperspin and bring this ability to everyone.

Sylver already created an application years ago capable of generating the individual text files in the proper format for a series of different types of screen, it woudl be as simple as picking up a couple files and shooting it out the two serial ports upon initializing xxx game

[Mozee]

Eeeh.

Personally I kinda hate Super-Duper-Ultimo MAME cabs with all kinds of useless frills. I can respect the enthusiasm and craftsmanship but gimme a simple traditional cabinet over some flashy thing with christmas lights, LED convenience store looking displays, 30 push buttons; 8 joysticks; 2 track balls and spinners; and a dozen admin controls, and a talking front end with 100,000 Arcade, NES, SNES, and Genesis games any day.

With that said I can understand the frustration with those who have invested in this feature to see it taken away, but let's not discourage the committed people who are trying their best to give us the best possible gaming front end out there. I'm sure there is a reason for this decision that was very difficult for even the BadBoyBill himself and we should all understand that.

Betabrite support would be nice for those who invested in this but it's far from a priority if you ask me. I trust the priorities of the HyperSpin team and if BetaBrite support isn't possible right out the gate then so be it.

Again I understand some people's frustrations but I say priority first! I think BBB should finish HS 2.0 as he envisions and then perhaps work on an add-on or update with BetaBrite support in the future.

[chillinwater]

I too am a proud owner of not (1) but (2) betabrite prisms.
Originally Hyperbrite was going to support (2) of them so I got a second one.

Now Im really bummed about the news even though a marquee screen is cooler, IMHO.
I still really like my (1) betabrite usage in HS.

However...
All is not lost Betabrite lovers!!!

Before Hyperbrite and built in betabrite support there was...BetaBrite loader (http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4078&highlight=hsbetabrite)
(aka hsbetabrite...by lashek),

Its still open source and was scripted into Hyperlaunch 1.0 originally so it needs to be ported but I know it can be done in HL 2.0

Glory to the Dragonborn who can deliver a new hsbetabrite and a script to run it :D

[djvj]

If Lashek's app still works, and HS2 will truly not have betabrite support, I could just add it into a function in the next HyperLaunch update so all you have to do is add one line to your module.

Let me know.

[chillinwater]

It still works, but it wouldnt be as full featured in its current state.
i.e. no option\ability to display a psuedo system image just scrolling text.

[Invincer]

The system images are very cool, and truth be told, I hate to lose them; but if we at least still have the scrolling text as we had before i will be fine with that. I know Bill would not toss out the Betabrite system image support after all the work he put into it if he could include it into 2.0.

From the way it was being described here though, it sounded like ALL functionality in every which way, third party and all, would be scrapped and the signs would be useless in HS period. This is why I have been just sitting back waiting to see if Bill was going to post to clear things up or post in more detail what may be happening going forward. Hopefully he still will sometime in the future, he may not be sure yet what he will be able to do with it as of yet himself at this point so I understand not posting till he is sure. So I will just sit back and wait. We all probably should just sit back and wait to see what happens and get more information.

Maybe it will roll out with no support for the signs but have support added later

Maybe we will go with the older third party support from the old days lashek provided. Tried but true :)

...and worst case scenario, if the signs in no way will work with 2.0; this isn't Sony AKA taking away a promised OS... if we have to have Betabrite working and it won't work on 2.0 nothing would be forcing us to upgrade from HS 1.0 to 2.0.

So at this point, let's cross our fingers and just wait and see if us Betabriters can still be as tacky as we want to be :P

[chillinwater]

Yeah playing the old wait and see game is the best bet.

I know it will work though but like I said in a limited fashion.

If\when the time comes....
The scripting in HL shouldnt be difficult to port into HL 2.0 and since the source for hsbetabrite is open somone could enhance that part of it.

I have no knowledge of the language hsbetabrite is written in or I would take on the project.

One way or another I will have my betabrite working in HS 2.0.

"Let them have there TarTar Sauce!!!"

[Metalsutton]

These look cool too. http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/bfa3/

USB Monitors. Would be great for boxart.

[evil eye]

That is pretty cool, nice find

[Deebeaux]

USB Monitors would be neat, but I would be a little sad if BetaBrite Prism support is truly left out. I enjoy the sign in attract mode, as do others that come by and see it. I like it when the monitor goes to sleep and the sign still runs. :)

Hopefully there's enough interest to find out how to make it work in some fashion, even if it's not as full featured as it is now.

(Last complete one on eBay went for $125, so they're a lot more affordable than they used to be...when the pop up.)

[gamesmame]

year 2012 = Hyperspin 2.0 =) the word Aproved!!! ^^

[Lailoken]

Will it release December 21st, 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon)?

[gamesmame]

Will it release December 21st, 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon)?

Will be this week :bird:, at least I and all who access the site wanted it to be :birthday: ...

HyperSpin 2.0 Here we go!! :congrats:

[buddman]

So it's going to be released this week? If so I can add it to my SNES build before unveiling it!

[Monyet]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vTt-V5P1Uu4/TThApSqKJWI/AAAAAAAADKY/lE8fN3T9wn4/s1600/Consuela_Propaganda_by_Sidoneon.png

[donnei1979]

Lol!!

[gamesmame]

So it's going to be released this week? If so I can add it to my SNES build before unveiling it!

There's nothing confirmed, we only hope to launch this month (this year) is still a joy to all Gold members! hugs friends! :birthday:

[buddman]

Ah I misread. One can dream... ;)

[Trnzaddict]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vTt-V5P1Uu4/TThApSqKJWI/AAAAAAAADKY/lE8fN3T9wn4/s1600/Consuela_Propaganda_by_Sidoneon.png

"No, No, No, Hyperspeen 2 no here...."

Us - "But it's been almost-"

"No, No,no,no."

-shuts Door-

[jahilton2002]

FshkO8HqQ10

[gamesmame]

Hehuauhauhauh... no no no no no no no... =P ow crap! =)

[Lailoken]

So, what you guys are saying is that BBB needs more Lemon Pledge?

[Rain]

I'm wanting to setup my new machine, but am having a hard time deciding wheter to build it on 1.x, or just wait till' 2.0. What would you guys do?

[evil eye]

How long can you tolerate your old setup? Because as we all know 2.0 could unveil tomorrow or next year. :D Too open ended for me. I was in the same spot as you a few months ago and decided to make the switch. No regrets right now, but I hope upgrading to HS2.0 in the future won't be too big of a pain. The way I see it, I was able to set up all of these ridiculously complicated emulators so I can handle switching to 2.0!

[Rain]

How long can you tolerate your old setup? Because as we all know 2.0 could unveil tomorrow or next year. :D Too open ended for me. I was in the same spot as you a few months ago and decided to make the switch. No regrets right now, but I hope upgrading to HS2.0 in the future won't be too big of a pain. The way I see it, I was able to set up all of these ridiculously complicated emulators so I can handle switching to 2.0!

Ive been using HyperSpin for about two years now. Just think I will keep using GameEx on the new Cab until 2.0 is released. No reason to setup an old software that I will just have to redo whenever. :D Wonder if 2.0 is going to be plug and play? Thatd be nice to just drop new files over an old install.

[evil eye]

That's exactly what I'm hoping for :)

[Mr Black Arm]

x2

[CASHMON3Y]

x3

[donnei1979]

Just setup HS right now with the 2.0 modules the switch to HS 2.0 will be easy then

[Mr Black Arm]

Just setup HS right now with the 2.0 modules the switch to HS 2.0 will be easy then

Exactly what I'm guessing. I highly doubt they would the switch to HyperLaunch 2.0 and not use it in the new version. I think the biggest pain will be to download (and rename if you don't use the minted HyperLists) the new .MP4 videos.

[Rain]

Thus far I have all 62 of my systems ready to rock & roll, using the latest and greatest themes, vids, HyperList files (minted of course), and am missing only a few ROMS! I can't wait!

[mesk]

I was in that situation awhile back as well.I ended up transferring all 46 systems over to HS from GameEX-GameEX just has too many issues for me-I spent more time in the backend of it then I did on the frontend!

Anyways im glad I transferred everything over.im sure switching to 2.0 wont be a big deal :)

[BadBoyBill]

Just added a new feature for higher performance scrolling backgrounds, the idea behind this is maybe you want an infinite looping background like on the Master System main theme or Genesis main theme.

The problem with the current versions is that they are made in flash and the way you make scrolling backgrounds in flash isnt very efficient. You have to basically create a giant image thats usually 2 images place together and loop them on a timeline.

In place now is new code that you can use just a tiny texture , HyperSpin will auto populate your background with memory copies of that tiny texture and blit those to the screen for a seamless background loop. This is very cool because the performance gain is a ton and the animation is also alot smoother than if you made it by hand the standard way.

For example the new SMS theme now uses this small image instead of the big flash file.

http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/images/Background.png

and you have some easy code in your theme file

<background scroll="true" direction="upright" scrolltime=".4"><background scroll="true" direction="upright" scrolltime=".4"><background scroll="true" direction="upright" scrolltime=".4"> < background scroll="true" direction="upright" scrolltime=".4" />

Just set scroll to true, pick a scrolling direction, like up , down, downright etc.. and set a loop time.

No more fiddling with flash to create inefficient scrolling backgrounds.</background></background></background>

[Rain]

Sounds interesting, now if only I could theme! :)

[Mozee]

Jus glad to hear HS 2.0 is still alive!

[Monyet]

For example the new SMS theme now uses this small image instead of the big flash file.

http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/images/Background.png

and you have some easy code in your theme file



I thought there was something wrong the image, like it wasn't there or you just posted a white box to show us how small the texture could be...then I remembered the Master System boxes. Derp!

Hey Bill and Dazz, how's it going? You know, just in general...

[deanmorrison]

yes cant wait to port my stuff over after a little somebody messed up my hyperspin alot of hard work down the drain...grrrrr kids.everything on hold till then.........not rushing you or anything bill..good things come to he who waits:burnout:

[merugear]

Just bought a Marvel vs Capcom Tournament Fightstick for hyperspin!
How does HS2 handle different joysticks, cos I read somewhere joytokey and all will be obsolete in HS2? Can't wait for release! I just hope my psx issues will be gone like the rain. Keep up the good work!

[BadBoyBill]

HS1 supports joysticks, its HS2 that might not on initial release.

[gamesmame]

BadBoyBill, place at least one HS2(Beta) for download, only for us go testing, there is that possibility? Thank you and good job!

[Monyet]

BadBoyBill, place at least one HS2(Beta) for download, only for us go testing, there is that possibility? Thank you and good job!

No. Stop asking. It only pisses people off.

[gamesmame]

Ask not offended, or is this not a forum? because it is a forum so questions are allowed, not are allowed insults!

[Rain]

I can releate to BadBoyBill, these things take time. As a software developer myself, people are often howling for the next big thing. The problem is if you rush it, it may work for awhile - but eventually it will break! Then all you have done is released a polished turd. Though I have never seen 2.0, I can imagine the process of debugging such a large application would be quite staggering. HyperSpin does not use just one or two files, it uses thousands of files (in my case), each one doing it's own little thing. Personally, even if it takes five years I would rather wait until Bill is comfortable enough with his own creation to release it to the masses. I mean what good is a frontend if it's half baked? So all I can say, is actually thank you for taking the time to develop a software that will be a great addition to our machines, and take as long as you need. Thanks!

[evil eye]

Well said, Rain.

[gamesmame]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g1tICB6XFjE/TuHh9GBlv8I/AAAAAAAADLg/B3fO8ry2tjc/s1600/Okay_guy.jpg

[Lailoken]

I have a suggestion. It's not really about HS2, but it's about making BBB and others do extra work, so I thought it fit here.

The suggestion is to repackage the HyperSpin download so that it includes the 1.2 update, HyperLaunch 2.xx and a possibly modified HyperHQ that populates module folders.

The reason I'm bringing this up is because I've noticed several new people posting on the forums about how to get their HyperLaunch 1.x script to work and the usual response is "First, get HyperLaunch 2."

Doing this might alleviate some of the problems that new users have with requesting help on the forums. Plus, now that the HS is being hosted on your server it's a bit easier to update. I have no idea how much work is involved, but I didn't think too much or I wouldn't bring it up.

[Boogieman_nl]

+1

Hyperlaunch 2 (.x) should be the new standard imho.

[evil eye]

+1 x infinity and beyond.

[gamesmame]

This anxiety of waiting five years for a program is to discourage any one, correct :(? it seems like a fairy tale ... because there is no one release more than 3 years!

[Rain]

Good things come with patience. 1.0 is a wonderful program, so if it takes another 5 years to perfect 2.0 I am cool w/that too.

[donnei1979]

Just be glad BBB is even making 2.0 :D

[gamesmame]

Would not it be more productive if someone can help with programming? The project would not take five years but five weeks or five months, just say to which language he used in programming, exist large good programmers to help with the project, the releases would come out faster, like the MAME team, for ex. launch a release, always fast! almost every week, yes the MAME more take five years of programming, but in within five years of programming MAME, launched millions of versions of the releases with the changes, I think it would be a good idea for the ​​HS2, everyone would be happy to help! this development we would have every step in our computer, testing and finding bugs possible ... but, is only one ideia...

[xagesz]

Pretty sure BBB and a couple others are the only ones working on it. And because they are close knit they don't want to add anyone to the project. They found a system that works. Plain and simple leave it at that. Honestly I love HS1 as it is. Its simple and elegant. There isn't a necessary need for a new HS. Although it will be awesome in the end. Everything that i foresee coming in the next release can already be accomplished in 1. You just need a little know how to do it.

[SophT]

MAME is also constantly full of drama and devs quitting and bickering. Ok maybe not constantly...

[djvj]

HS is programmed in ActionScript. If you are very skilled in this language, send BBB a pm. Otherwise it is a difficult language to get good at and their aren't that many good developers.

[Dazz]

... There isn't a necessary need for a new HS. Although it will be awesome in the end. Everything that i foresee coming in the next release can already be accomplished in 1. You just need a little know how to do it.There are several major features that were left out of 1 that you can't easily hack in with a little know how. Two features of 2.0 are multiple user favorites and a full search feature. Once you use these features in 2.0, you will say "how in the world did we get by without these in 1.0".

[gamesmame]

The way is to wait for a new release, I hope I'm still alive by then! :)

[xagesz]

There are several major features that were left out of 1 that you can't easily hack in with a little know how. Two features of 2.0 are multiple user favorites and a full search feature. Once you use these features in 2.0, you will say "how in the world did we get by without these in 1.0".

I'll take your word on that. But as I am still young and unmarried the Multi User portion isn't very nessecary.

Full Search does excite me. But I mean I've managed this long without it. I can keep going.

[Mr Black Arm]

Yeah, the search option is definitely great, especially for guests. Although if I'm playing, I'm in control and people will play what I want. If not, then I'll fight them.

[emb]

Would not it be more productive if someone can help with programming? The project would not take five years but five weeks or five months, just say to which language he used in programming, exist large good programmers to help with the project, the releases would come out faster, like the MAME team, for ex. launch a release, always fast! almost every week, yes the MAME more take five years of programming, but in within five years of programming MAME, launched millions of versions of the releases with the changes, I think it would be a good idea for the ​​HS2, everyone would be happy to help! this development we would have every step in our computer, testing and finding bugs possible ... but, is only one ideia...

From my personal experience as a software engineer, adding more resources to a project can be less productive in certain circumstances. You cannot get 9 women pregnant and expect a baby in 1 month. If you are able to break up tasks so they can be worked on in parallel, then it's easier to add on more programmers.

MAME is one of those projects that can support a lot of people working in parallel (vertical slices) since there are so many systems to emulate which are decoupled from each other. I am guessing it is more difficult to do for a project like hyperspin, being a multimedia/frontend application.

Someone above mentioned that there is a lack of good actionscript programmers. You cannot just hire anyone. A noticeable chunk (not all) of web and actionscript programmers tend to write unmaintainable code generally because they are hobby programmers, inexperienced programmers, or programmers who never needed to write scalable or maintainable applications. There are also a lot of programmers who think they are great because they know how to write code to get "stuff to work" but in reality they have no grasp of design patterns to make their code maintainable or accommodating to change.

I am just trying to get my point across that it you can only have so many programmers on a project and that great actionscript programmers are a little tough to come by when compared to c/c++, java, and c# developers.

[xagesz]

Won't lie I didn't even know what actionscript was until reading this thread the last few days. And I consider myself a fairly knowledgable person in computers.

[gamesmame]

:P ok...........

[BadBoyBill]

Heres a feature I added a month ago that I didnt really feel like mentioning but figured I could at least show a vid. When you land on a game you can optionally use an animation , few to choose from, or you can set it to random like in the video.

[YOUTUBE HD]2v1riBaMbT0[/YOUTUBE HD]

[Rain]

Once again, greatness shows itself to the masses, good work!

[djvj]

Nice job and very cool BBB.

[gstav]

nice little add-on BBB! :D

[manson976]

Kick ass!
Gettin better everytime all worth the wait..
Now can we just gag the guys who keep postin when is 2.0 is out this doesn't take five mins to do its just like art it takes time and love to perfect...
And this is the true definition of PERFECTION..
Thanks again BILL all the support from here from the Manson Family..
Rock On!

[manson976]

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[SophT]

you'll shoot your eye out with that thing!

[Lailoken]

you'll shoot your eye out with that thing!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HqJzpiCcbpE/Sjfe2nKXr_I/AAAAAAAAARc/SUb2xtrudpE/s400/BackwardsGun.jpg

[manson976]

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