Amiga!

[espontaneo]

Hi just like to confirm that Hyperspin works with Winuaeloader!

This means you can run Amiga WHDload games from the zips, so no messing about with floppies. Plus Winuaeloader uses XML databases for it's game lists!

To configure you need to put "winuaeloader.exe -mode whdload -game" in the exe field for the killer gorrilla whdload sets to work.

Well now to create a decent looking theme!

What I would like to do is make the titles to look like floppy disks with the titles on the labels but I guess you can't have titles that are offset so that only the label is centered in the wheel.

Or can you?

[The Loafer]

Hmmm, Im pretty sure a friend gave me the whdload sets. Now look at what you did, I'm going to have to hunt through my discs in search for this one!!! :)

[HeadKaze]

Glad to hear my WinUAE Loader wrapper works with HyperSpin :)

If your looking for the WHDLoad sets they are available on the KillerGorilla website. You can run WinUAE Loader on it's own and it has a links tab for all the relevent places also there is more detailed info in the readme.txt.

For more info WinUAE Loader (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=76077.0)

Amiga Forever!

[EVEGames]

Headkaze,
You are one of the all-stars of this hobby. Glad to see you posting on this forum, as so many of your applications have been and will be useful to HyperSpin users. Thanks given!

[espontaneo]

Yeah, cheers dude. It rocks!

Now if KG just need to add Speedball 2 to the sets :) CD32 version just doesn't have the right music...

[HeadKaze]

Yeah, cheers dude. It rocks!

Now if KG just need to add Speedball 2 to the sets :) CD32 version just doesn't have the right music...

I seem to get the request alot, Speedball 2 and Xenon II really classic games.

You can play them already using WinUAE Loader! It supports 3 different sets, GameBase, SPS and WHDLoad. Forget the SPS set but the GameBase set has 4953 supported games including Speedball 2 and Xenon II.

To get the GameBase set read the ReadMe.txt that comes with WinUAE Loader.

[espontaneo]

I can't seem to get a hold of the gamebase sets...and when I use winuaeloader in gamebase mode and point it to the location the of the kgwhdload sets it comes up with nothing even though the gamebase mdb is supposed to support them...

[HeadKaze]

The WHDLoad set is different to the GameBase set, you have to download them separately.

[espontaneo]

I thought as gamebase amiga supports the whdload sets they would be included in the master database file.....

Anyway I can't get hold of the gamebase set, so I'm just gonna continue working with the whdload set.

It's going to be awkward to change modes anyway, I can't see how you'd change modes from gamebase to whdload without having a different wheel for each. As the whdload sets have no disk swapping and no cracktros etc they seem the better choice for hyperspin...

[espontaneo]

I just manually added Xenon 2 to the winuaeloader whdload database file and it works fine....presumbably I can do the same for all the new KG sets?

[espontaneo]

YAY! I have mashed together a working Speedball2 WHDLOAD! Added to winuaeloader database!

I'm feeling so smug right now!

[espontaneo]

Hmmm for some reason which is baffling to me speedball 2 won't run from hyperspin...

I can run it from a bat file and from winuaeloader itself but not hyperspin.

It makes absolutely no sense.

I've named the file speedball2_v1.0.zip and added and entry to the whdload.xml for winuaeloader.

Xenon 2 was added the same way and it works fine from hyperspin..

It works great but when hyperspin tries to launch it, winuaeloader quits with and error.

Any ideas?

[espontaneo]

Ok so I renamed speedball 2 as juniortypist1.0 and edited the xml and now speedball 2 loads.

Muh?

It's a workaround but damn is it annoying.

[espontaneo]

Please can someone give me the last few hours of my life back?

Turns out, winuaeloader is case sensitive. Yup it's always the simplest things.

Anyway the good news is Speedball 2 now works!

[The Loafer]

Cool, I'm reading your posts, keep up with the progress reports!

[Beaps]

It dont work for me....

It says cannot find "winuaeloader.exe -mode whdload -game
" With Hyperlaunch on

Black screen with Hyperlaunch off :-(

[akiles500]

It doens´t work
It says cannot find "winuaeloader.exe -mode whdload -game
Espontaneo put ini file with your configuration

[espontaneo]

[exe info]
path = D:\emulation\winuaeloader\
rompath = D:\emulation\amigahd\hdgames\
userompath = true
exe = winuaeloader.exe -mode whdload -game
romextension = zip
parameters =
searchsubfolders = false
pcgame = false
winstate = NORMAL
hyperlaunch = false


That's how it is, have you launched the games with winuae loader first to test that's ok?

[Beaps]

Sorry I dont get what you mean - you want me to post my Ini file?

[Beaps]

I can launch Gamesbase & Winload no prbs in the loader


Tried ur config - screen goes black and the HS come back on

[Beaps]

Sorted it - thanks

I was trying to load Gamebase with WHD files :stupid:

I do have another question

I find that some Gamebase Games play at the correct speed where as the WHD ones are a lot slower. There is also a case for some game being the other way around.

So what I have done is created 2 Amiga Databases on the main screen. I would rarther have 1 so my question is can you have 2 locations for roms?

[akiles500]

Espontaneo in hdgames folder have every the games of three romset together or by separate

How many XML. file use one or three in databases?

[espontaneo]

Hmm I have not noticed any slowdown, I only use the WHDload set, i've managed to add extra games to it (speedball2 and xenon2)....

might be your configs..

What spec machine and os are you running it on?

[espontaneo]

I just have the KGwhdload set in 1 folder....

1 xml with 140 games I have done wheel, box and video for so far :)

[akiles500]

Espontaneo thanks now works perfect but at the moment only the games of WHDload romset

[Beaps]

Any chance I cn get hold of your wheel art espontaneo

[Beaps]

Going back to slowdown a perfect example is Xenon (best amiga game in my opinion.)

WHD Load (crazy slooooow)
Gamebase (+1 on regular speed)

Give it a shot when you get some time I would be interested to see what you come back with.

[espontaneo]

No your right it's running at half speed, just need to fix the config in the whdload.xml.

I'm working on a fix, i'll post it up.

[espontaneo]

The whdload file for xenon needs fixed apparently....

[Beaps]

Can u post ur xml for Gamebase and WHDLoad please?

[espontaneo]

It's not ready yet :)

[Beaps]

Do you think you can ammend the wheel text on your Amiga wheel them to say

Amiga Gamebase
Amiga WHDLoad

[espontaneo]

er do that yourself....

But I have majorly rewritten the WHDload configs and now the games run perfectly, yes even Xenon....there should be no need to use both sets.

If you want to see for yourself open up the file whdload.xml in the winuaeloader/data folder (back it up). Scroll down to the xenon entry and add the line:

|finegrain_cpu_speed=512|

so it looks like this:

<Game Name="Xenon" FileName="Xenon_v1.1_0399.zip" ScrnshotFilename="X/Xenon_.png" UseMouse="True" PalNTSC="0" Cd="dh1:Xenon;" WHDLoad="Xenon.slave PRELOAD; CUSTOM1=1;" UAEConfig="collision_level=playfields|cpu_speed=max|immediate _blits=false|cpu_compatible=true|cpu_cycle_exact=t rue|finegrain_cpu_speed=512|blitter_cycle_exact=tr ue|chipset=ocs" />

secondly to make all the games load superfast use find/replace and replace all: =real with =max

This will change cpu_speed from =real to =max on every game...

The problem with config?

Well it's loading the games into memory with an emulated amiga 1200, then effectively running at the speed of a 500, this makes several games slow.

Some games will not work perhaps I haven't gone through them all yet. and haven't found one that doesn't, but It sure does make a hell of a difference! Some games load a bit too fast because their intro screens were based on the actual loading speed of an amiga, for example Zool and Captive for these games you may want to change to cpu

Try it, and like me you'll forget about the gamebase sets.

Thirdly pm me for info about speedball 2 :)

Fourthly get beta 8 of Winuae no later or it won't work:

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae_1600b8.zip

This now has an autoscale screen size option!

After beta 8 there are major problems so don't be tempted, yet.

But CD32 games will not boot, at the moement anyway so I just use an older winuae for this.

Anyway, that's how to get the amiga working great,

More info when I've tested further...

enjoy :)

I'll post a video later to prove it....

[espontaneo]

as promised the video of the games instaloading! Please excuse the alt-tabbing camtasia causes hyperspin to lose focus after loading a game.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4IaBBRlxr2A&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4IaBBRlxr2A&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Notice xenon running at proper speed!

The jerkyness is camtasia...

hehe didn't know the mic was on!

[Lashek]

Fallout 3 wallpaper... nice. =)

Looks good to me so far, great work :D

[Darkmindz]

Very impressive very nice espontaneo

[Propaganda]

Very nice, can't wait to try it out.

[StarControl]

I'm trying to get winuae, WHDLOAD, and espontaneo's art all working together. I downloaded a WHDLOAD set, and the naming seems all wrong:

My available versions of Agony:
Agony (1992)(Psygnosis)[2005][pa JOTD][pv 1.3][SPS0960-WHD]
Agony (1992)(Psygnosis)[2005][pa JOTD][pv 1.3][SPS0960-WHD#]

espontaneo's version:
Agony_v1.3_0960

Any explanation?

[espontaneo]

yes you are using the sps set not Kilergorrilla's as mentioned elsewhere:

Killer Gorilla's WHDloads (http://kgwhd.whdownload.com/)

[StarControl]

Thanks

[mr_tap]

so out of touch with emulation, last time i tried amiga i had to create virtual drives and mount the floppies, how it's move on... i can play directly from an arcade frontend? (well, soon :) )

[Propaganda]

yes you are using the sps set not Kilergorrilla's as mentioned elsewhere:

Killer Gorilla's WHDloads (http://kgwhd.whdownload.com/)

Thank you for the link! :hello:

[redmistpete]

Glad to hear my WinUAE Loader wrapper works with HyperSpin :)

If your looking for the WHDLoad sets they are available on the KillerGorilla website.....

The site has now moved to:

http://kg.whdownload.com/kgwhd/errors.php

[Ringoko]

Hi there, I was wondering if anyone here using WinUAE Loader with the WHDLoad set, has edited their whdload.xml file to include all or most of the missing games succesfully?

Specifically I'm interested in adding Speedball 2, Xenon 2, Legend of Kyrandia, Frontier, Kick Off 2, and Mega Lo Mania, but I'm not sure what to do. If someone could send me their whdload.xml, that'd save a lot of hassle.

[redmistpete]

Hi there, I was wondering if anyone here using WinUAE Loader with the WHDLoad set, has edited their whdload.xml file to include all or most of the missing games succesfully?

Specifically I'm interested in adding Speedball 2, Xenon 2, Legend of Kyrandia, Frontier, Kick Off 2, and Mega Lo Mania, but I'm not sure what to do. If someone could send me their whdload.xml, that'd save a lot of hassle.

Thanks! I was wondering why some games were missing from a supposedly full set.

[Zeaed]

Could anyone help me out and posted needed file? Read some forums and most links are dead?

[Ringoko]

Thanks! I was wondering why some games were missing from a supposedly full set.

hi, i was rooting around in the whdload xml file and thanks to someone on the EAB forum, noticed some version numbers are different than the actual games in the pack. once you change the version numbers to match, the games show up fine.

no entries for speedball 2 and xenon 2 though. with these codes i can get them working, but i noticed some problems with speedball 2.


<Game Name="Speedball 2 - Brutal Deluxe" FileName="speedball2_v1.0.zip" ScrnshotFilename="S/Speedball2.png" UseMouse="False" PalNTSC="0" Cd="dh1:speedball2;" WHDLoad="speedball2.slave PRELOAD;" UAEConfig="collision_level=playfields|cpu_speed=real|immediat e_blits=false|cpu_compatible=false|cpu_cycle_exact =true|blitter_cycle_exact=true" />



<Game Name="Xenon 2 - Megablast" FileName="Xenon2_v1.9_1Disk_2234.zip" ScrnshotFilename="X/Xenon2.png" UseMouse="False" PalNTSC="0" Cd="dh1:xenon2;" WHDLoad="Xenon21Disk.Slave PRELOAD;" UAEConfig="collision_level=playfields|cpu_speed=real|immediat e_blits=false|cpu_compatible=false|cpu_cycle_exact =true|blitter_cycle_exact=true" />

[Zeaed]

I've been reading and followed this guide

http://www.headsoft.com.au/index.php?category=winuaeloader

Done the first part renaming the kickstart roms and placed it in the right folder, but dunno how to go from there?

[Zeaed]

Ok, i think i'm on the right way, i followed GameBase Amiga - Illustrated Post-Setup Guide

When i run Verify Avalible Tables my results are

Games not found 0/2711
Tunes not found 0/2045
Pictures not found 0/3129
Extras not found 0/9879

All games list shows 4593, is that how it should be with Gamebase Amiga 1.6?

When i right click on gamelist and gamefile location it says ok

But most of games i try to run i gets bluescreen and it wound load

Any ideas of why i get bluescreen but it shows ok on base?