Phoenix - phoenix(EvilNeon-01_26_09)

[neonnets]

Evil,
What do you think of something like this? I need your blessing. :)
Will provide all art for you to mess with.
Or tell me its crap. Only @ 25%
http://www.neonnetworks.com/hyper/phoenix01.jpg

http://www.neonnetworks.com/hyper/phoenix.jpg

Edit: Some have asked why not create NEW from the request list. I don't know any of the games left on the list that are'nt being worked on already. I'm old and like the classics. :)

[EvilDindon]

Great job !

It's surely cleaner than my first theme.

And, thanks cause it was on my remake list. So i don't need to do it anymore.

Suggestions :

1- The title is covering too much the vid (try to decrease the video a bit, and move them up and down, away from each other)

2- Take the Side art phoenix logo, as it looks cleaner than the marquee (don't like that green too much)

3- Move the ship a bit on the left or reduce it a bit.

[EvilDindon]

4th suggestion :

I'd prefer seeing the bird artwork over the phoenix logo, and I suggest you to reduce it (the bird) by about 15%

[EvilDindon]

Last big suggestions :

I was thinking, for my remake, putting the logo down the screen to change radically from the previous theme, plus it would stand out more on the blue planet.

And the video centered but on top (the title still overlaping it)

[BadBoyBill]

I like this theme alot, very clean, I would just reduce everything a very tiny bit, not alot, I like the big graphics, but just a tiny bit, so you can see the vid just a little more.

[neonnets]

1. The logo, You like the gradient fill better? or the color green better?
2. I agree with the ship size (I'm thinking of a chase across)
3. The bird over the logo will push the title under the (Free Game etc. stuff at the bottom) or are you talking something else?
4. Video is to high. :)
5. I'll up the art for you to move around. (Later tonight)

Edit: OR I'll up now!

[EvilDindon]

Ultra quick mockup of what I was suggesting above about the title and video :

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3200/phoenixaltmd2.jpg

PS : are you really old ?

I'm 36 and I'm 12 in my head.

[EvilDindon]

1. The logo, You like the gradient fill better? or the color green better?
2. I agree with the ship size (I'm thinking of a chase across)
3. The bird over the logo will push the title under the (Free Game etc. stuff at the bottom) or are you talking something else?
4. Video is to high. :)
5. I'll up the art for you to move around. (Later tonight)

Edit: OR I'll up now!
1 : Yeah the gradient one
2 : I suggest to make the ship hovering and not chasing.
3 : Was just sayong that I'd prefer seeing the bird's wing overlaping the main phoenix logo.

[BadBoyBill]

I wouldnt use chase animation for the ship, its way overused and doesnt suit the theme, keep it simple and your theme will shine.

[neonnets]

Roger on the chase. All art is upped. Except the Video sceen and border(forgot in the zip) see below. Anyone feel free to post screen.

[neonnets]

Something like this?

[RetroBorg]

Looks great.

[BadBoyBill]

The old logo is alot better, that one is very bright and lost some of the detail. I'd say the second ones size of everything , old logo, move the vid more center.

[neonnets]

Gotcha. I'm at work on a old version of PS and crap monitor. I'll have to wait til I get back to the Cave.

[EvilDindon]

The mockup with BBB's last suggestions :

video centered, old logo.

Neon : note that my backround big plue planet is different than yours.Which one do you prefer ? If you prefer mine, I can trace it cleanly and post the png here.

PS : You should work instead of drawing.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6413/phoenixaltjx0.jpg

[manipars]

I like this theme, it looks very nice and clean, thanks. Again nice job on this one. Cheers

[EvilDindon]

Hi mani ! glad to see you back !

[EvilDindon]

Here is the alternative BG if you want to use it :

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9133/phoenixbackaltft1.png

[manipars]

Thanks mike, these group efforts really makes this community great and helpful. I'm still amazed by the rate the new themes are announced and released; I never thought that was even possible when HS first was released at least not at this rate. We have far too many perfectionists here but that's a good thing I guess. Many thanks goes to all the HS artists/theme-creators. Cheers

[BadBoyBill]

I knida like the old background better for some reason, it has bigger stars and planets etc...

[neonnets]

How bout this?
Used large blue planet with different glow color in background and old stars.

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[EvilDindon]

I think this is perfect.

Maybe put the logo and video a bit higher, so that the HS text on bottom won't overlap too much the logo.

[BadBoyBill]

Perfect , upload it!

[EvilDindon]

Don't you want to clean up a bit more the main logo before uploading ?

I see three or four unwanted black pixels or group of pixels.

[neonnets]

yeah, I'll fool with it.

How's this??

Evil,
Are you still thinking gradient fill? I think it might look over done. Just my 2 cents.
Here's medium sized halfed ready for fill. Show me what your thinking.

[neonnets]

Adjust color a little. To much? .xml complete. Evil, you want to modify the .xml?


EDIT: Looking at this again it way to much color. I'll fix

[EvilDindon]

No, it's your theme. The only thing I'd suggest for animations is to make things appear and take place quite quickly.
I noticed that some good looking theme are slow, and I think this is not the spirit of HS : HS is a dynamic FE, in my opinion. If you look at all HS team themes (billpa, BBB, etc.), they all take place in 1-2 seconds max.

But wait some more, I began tracing of the logo (only the inside lines), so it will look cleaner.

I'll post the png with 2 different colors.

[EvilDindon]

Here is your medium size logo blank, cleaned. (still not perfect, but acceptable)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/998/phoenixartwork3mediumdc4.png

[neonnets]

Thanks Evil,
What do you think of killing the video border, turning the stars blue?
It looks pretty neat. Nice match.

[EvilDindon]

It's unusual, surprising and quite good.

Maybe a ultra thin blue border ?

The blue stars look better, I think.

[BadBoyBill]

I think your trying to hard man, the theme about 4 - 5 posts back is perfect, now its starting to not look so good.

[neonnets]

yeah, nothing like over thinking it.

[EvilDindon]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8305/phoenixlogo1xm6.png

[EvilDindon]

Oops ! the top of the "h" stayed white.

Will correct it after dinner.

[neonnets]

Alrighty,
1,2, or 3? The borderless one looks nice with the scrolling video stars. (But you'll have to take my word for it.)
I perfer #2. I suspect Evil #3, and Bill #1. ;)
Evil? Bill?

http://www.neonnetworks.com/hyper/phoenix08.jpg

[Dazz]

I do like the look of the video mixed in with the background.

[EvilDindon]

Hey neo, can you try n°3 with the logo I've just posted (#33), and a thin blue video border ?

[EvilDindon]

I suggest you move the video up on top edge, so you can move up the phoenix logo too : this will leave more space for the bottom HS text.

[neonnets]

Evil,
See attached zip. Post your ideas. I have the zip as I like it but i'm open for anything. See "Addon" folder for your logo and video border.

[EvilDindon]

Here is my new mockup.

All that i had suggested is here :

- logo and video moved up the maximum it would be, to let more place for HS text on bottom,
- Thin video border + blue halo,
- Vectorised Phoenix logo (the one that I've posted : see post n°33)

Neon : I've totally changed the animations.
I'll post a .zip temp theme, and I'll ask you to try it.

Cheers.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9453/phoenixaltit6.jpg

[RetroBorg]

I like the halo.

[EvilDindon]

Just noticed that the video is wider than the frame. I've already corrected that.If you want to correct the .xml, the perfect size for video is w=376 (and not 400 as posted)

[neonnets]

Evil,
I can live with that. :)
The only change I think is the thin line looks purple. If it was the same blue as the glow it would be perfect.

There is a paperclip icon in my message box for attachments. :)

[EvilDindon]

Yeah I know how to attach documents.

But I can only attach pictures or text documents, zip are not allowed for me !

So, what about my modified theme (except the purple frame that is wrong to your eyes) : animations, picture, etc.

Do you want to keep it like that, and upload with a blue frame ?

[neonnets]

I'm at work and unable to view the modified theme in action. I trust your judgement. Strange with the attachment problem. :)
See below. Has the same glow as the background planet has. Yeah? No?

http://www.neonnetworks.com/hyper/phoenix.png

[EvilDindon]

Yeah I've also thought trying this glow, similar to the planet. Youy read my mind.

I'll wait tonight, want you to try the new animations.

I'll post a preview until that with your modified frame.

[neonnets]

Thanks Evil,
I'm sure it'll be perfect.

[EvilDindon]

Here is the look of the theme with the blue video frame :

Made some minor adjustments to the xml.

I think it's uploadable now. Waiting your approval neon.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6206/phoenixaltmk0.jpg

[Dazz]

looks good to me... upload

[EvilDindon]

Ok thanx.

As it's neonnets's theme, I'll wait his judgment on the xml.

[EvilDindon]

Other link (I think the previous one is not good ...)

http://www.filesavr.com/phoenixevilneon01-28-2009_1

Please Dazz, could you tell me what's the tip to attach a .zip file in a message ?

[BadBoyBill]

Go to the bottom under your message and click "manage attatchments button"

[EvilDindon]

Yeah but .zip are "invalid files" ...

[BadBoyBill]

Oh I think that was from back in the day I removed zip support cuz I didnt want people sharing HS in the private beta to regular members. I will fix it.

[BadBoyBill]

Ok try next time it should work. Thanks.

[Dazz]

Oh I think that was from back in the day I removed zip support cuz I didnt want people sharing HS in the private beta to regular members. I will fix it.Actually, I think it should be off as we can't verify that there are no viruses or anything attached to the files. If we enable it then we need to make a disclaimer about downloading from unauthorized sources as it is going to make the site responsible for contents of the file.

[BadBoyBill]

Thats true, thats also why I removed it, I guess we'll take it back off.

[neonnets]

Evil,
I like what you've done with the .xml. How should I name this? Do you like EvilNeon or should it be EvilDindon-Neonnets?

BTW next to the Fonts/Sizes/Color/Smiley/ is a paperclip icon in the window I'm typing in now. You don't have that?

[EvilDindon]

Dindonnets.

Have you managed to download via the link in post #51 ?

[EvilDindon]

Ps : "dindon" in french, means "turkey", yeah, turkey, the ugly bird.

[EvilDindon]

Evil,
I like what you've done with the .xml. How should I name this? Do you like EvilNeon or should it be EvilDindon-Neonnets?

BTW next to the Fonts/Sizes/Color/Smiley/ is a paperclip icon in the window I'm typing in now. You don't have that?

Yeah I have the paperclip.

But I'm not allowed to upload a .zip file : it says it's an invalid file.

[neonnets]

Yeah, Is this from #51. I'll upload on a yes.

<Theme>
<video w="376"
h="445"
x="512"
y="242"
r="0"
below="no"
forceaspect="both"
time="2.5"
delay="0.5"
bsize="0"
bsize2="0"
bsize3="0"
bcolor="0"
bcolor2="0"
bcolor3="0"
bshape="round"
type="grow"
start="none"/>
<artwork1 x="117" y="38" time="1" delay ="3.5" type="grow" start="none" rest="none"/>
<artwork2 x="528" y="546" time="2.6" delay ="0" type="zoom out" start="none" rest="none"/>
<artwork3 x="211" y="186" time="2.4" delay ="2.2" type="sweep right" start="none" rest="hover"/>
<artwork4 x="867" y="118" time="0.4" delay ="3.8" type="grow x" start="none" rest="hover"/>
</Theme>

[BadBoyBill]

Those are some long delay's are you sure? I'd have to see it though.

[neonnets]

DL from post #51. Have a looksee

[EvilDindon]

Yeah, Is this from #51. I'll upload on a yes.

<Theme>
<video w="376"
h="445"
x="512"
y="242"
r="0"
below="no"
forceaspect="both"
time="2.5"
delay="0.5"
bsize="0"
bsize2="0"
bsize3="0"
bcolor="0"
bcolor2="0"
bcolor3="0"
bshape="round"
type="grow"
start="none"/>
<artwork1 x="117" y="38" time="1" delay ="3.5" type="grow" start="none" rest="none"/>
<artwork2 x="528" y="546" time="2.6" delay ="0" type="zoom out" start="none" rest="none"/>
<artwork3 x="211" y="186" time="2.4" delay ="2.2" type="sweep right" start="none" rest="hover"/>
<artwork4 x="867" y="118" time="0.4" delay ="3.8" type="grow x" start="none" rest="hover"/>
</Theme>

Yes.

[neonnets]

EvilTurkey. ;)
I'll upload now.

[neonnets]

Dazz,
Can you check on Outrun for me? It's been sitting Unapproved for a while. :)

[BadBoyBill]

Ya you uploaded it to many times, please just be sure what you want to upload and upload it once if possible. It will be reapproved.

As far as this themes goes, awesome job, I havent approved a theme in months, and I just approved it , nice work!

[neonnets]

Hell, Thats all you. :)
Thanks though. I did'nt give credit to BH in the first release. Sorry for the extra work.