View Full Version : Problems with VP9 on HP..
Hey guys. After seeing the Flintstones night-time mod screenshot, I just had to get VP9 running on my cab with HyperPin. With UncleWillys help, and the proper files, I was able to get it to work on my desktop without a problem. Now I am trying to get it running on my cab with HyperPin and I am running into a few problems. I'll try to explain the situation the best I can using points..
- Flintstones works just great when running directly through VP9 (obviously no backglass image)
- When running through HyperPin, I get the backglass full screen, but the playfield is rotated sideways.
-I tried changing the rotation of the table through the 'Backdrop' options of Visual pinball to '0' from '270' and it made no difference. Am I supposed to be messing with those numbers?
- HyperPin is set to 270 rotation, and FP tables load just fine.
- I figured out how to move and resize my DMD, but when I exit the table and come back, the resizing has stayed, but it always moves to the left on the backbox, so that I can see about 4 inches of it on the playfield and it needs to be moved again. It doesn't matter where I put it, it always moves back to that spot. This has nothing to do with HyperPin. I have the DMD set to monitor #1 on PinMame, and I also tried default.
Other than the playfield showing up sideways (when running with HP), and the DMD not staying exactly where I want it, everything else is running well. I had a blast playing Flintstones tonight for a few hours! I just stretched the dmd to fill the whole backglass :) I find VP9 a little bit more responsive than FP, and the ball is definately quicker.
I am also happy to say that I notice absolutely no slowdown at all when I rotate my monitor 180 degrees in the Nvidia options. I had heard that VP9 takes a big framerate hit when doing this, but I notice nothing. So, I won't have to physically rotate my monitors, or upgrade my video card. The only problem, is that I now have to go back and resize all of my FP tables! I just finished doing that last week! lol. :)
BadBoyBill
07-19-2009, 09:30 PM
So if you rotate your windows and vp is backwards, then why not just not rotate windows. Then it will be correct. It cant be backwards both ways.
As for the dmd not staying correctly you need the cabinet dll file. If you already have that and you still have issues, theres a big thread in this forum for others that had the problem along with some solutions.
So if you rotate your windows and vp is backwards, then why not just not rotate windows. Then it will be correct. It cant be backwards both ways.
As for the dmd not staying correctly you need the cabinet dll file. If you already have that and you still have issues, theres a big thread in this forum for others that had the problem along with some solutions.
I must not have expained quite clearly. I may have messed you up by saying that I was able to flip it 180 using the nvidia drivers, but this has nothing to do with that...
- Windows is not rotated, I am in landscape 1920x1080.
- Flinstones loads just fine using VP9.
- HyperPin set to 270 degree rotation. FP loads fine.
- If I load a VP9 table (Flintstones) with HP, the backglass shows properly, but the playfield is sideways (meaning 90 degrees off)
I didn't know about the cabinet.dll file. I'll check around the forums. Thank-you.
BadBoyBill
07-19-2009, 09:39 PM
Thats really weird, because HP has nothing to do with the orientation of the game, it simply launches it from the commandline which is just pretty much the same thing as you opening vp and running the game also. Now if your saying the game is 90 degrees off then are you saying that the flippers are at the bottom side of the screen or the top of the screen if you were looking at the tv normally? Do you have a screenshot of that?
Thats really weird, because HP has nothing to do with the orientation of the game, it simply launches it from the commandline which is just pretty much the same thing as you opening vp and running the game also. Now if your saying the game is 90 degrees off then are you saying that the flippers are at the bottom side of the screen or the top of the screen if you were looking at the tv normally? Do you have a screenshot of that?
I thought it was pretty odd too. I will go and take a picture with my camera and come back in a sec.....
REMEMBER: My playfield is backwards physically, so this is why I rotate it in software in the last 2 pictures..... The first 2 pictures would be opposite for a cab with the bottom of the TV on the left. (confusing, I know :) )
This is with no rotation on Windows running through HP:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8721/dsc04371m.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/dsc04371m.jpg/)
And here it is with Windows rotated 180:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1530/dsc04360q.th.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/dsc04360q.jpg/)
And here is a picture with Windows rotated 180 as well, but running straight through VP9: (no backglass, but proper rotation)
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4877/dsc04367t.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/dsc04367t.jpg/)
(Edit: I just noticed that the textures are messed up a bit as well when sideways.. hmm....)
BadBoyBill
07-19-2009, 10:18 PM
So instead of rotating 180 can you just rotate 90?
So instead of rotating 180 can you just rotate 90?
I did try that as well. Then the table and the backglass were both half showing on both monitors...
Usual setup would be to have the physical bottom of the tv on the left. No rotation in Windows, and running HP at 270 rotation, correct? I can set it up that way (just have to imagine the image backwards), and it still is not showing correctly. (picture #1)
Could it have something to do with my drivers? That pc has been without internet for about 6 months with no update to the video drivers. I do find it relly strange that it does load properly when loading it straight through VP9 however.
BadBoyBill
07-19-2009, 10:37 PM
Ya I find that strange also, its definitely something to do with you having rotated windows with software. How do you have your monitors set up in windows, is the primary to the left and the secondary to the right in the display options.
Ya I find that strange also, its definitely something to do with you having rotated windows with software. How do you have your monitors set up in windows, is the primary to the left and the secondary to the right in the display options.
- It does it whether I rotate Windows with software or not. (On my initial setup, I did not rotate with Nvidia, just to try to get it working)
- The primary is left, and the secondary is on the right.
- I am extending the second montor to the desktop using Nvidia.
- Q6600, Nvidia 8800GT, Windows Vista 32 bit. (running HP in Admin)
- I hope I didn't miss something easy, and I am wasting your time. I appreciate the help.
BadBoyBill
07-19-2009, 10:56 PM
Hmm.. no waste of time, this is the first of the issue and I'd like to help figure out the issue. Usually its as simple as installing pinmame, vpinball , installing the dll file and thats it. Are you using the default HyperPin settings? Also make sure you get the latest FPLaunch file from the downloads area, not that it has anything to do with your problem. I'd like to see you run flintstones from the command line, totally outside of HP. This might help narrow the problem down.
It should be
C:/Games/Pinball/VPinball.exe /play -C:/Games/Pinball/Tables/Flintsontes.vpt
Obviouly adjusted to reflect your paths and the actual table name.
Ok, I'll try that. One sec....
K.. I can't get the command line to work properly in Vista. I am getting a batch file error. I remember this happened before, and I had to use a different command line within Windows (not cmd). I appreciate the help, but I am so tired I can't think anymore. :) I'll have to pick this up again tommorow night.
One thing that I definately need to do is wipe my system and install a clean XP on there. I think I may do that tommorow, and when I have everything back up and running, I'll let you know if the problem persists. Thanks alot for your help tonight.
BadBoyBill
07-19-2009, 11:19 PM
No problem, good luck
I figured it out! And I am embaressed to say that it was a stupid mistake on my part. Sorry for wasting your time last night, but I really appreciate the help.
I hadn't renamed my Vpinball_9_2_0.exe file. Duh....
HP was loading VP8 :(
Everything is now running with Nvidia rotating my display! Everything runs smooth! Now to resize all of my FP tables... again. (This will be the third time. Once at 1650x1050, once at 1920x1080, and now 1920x1080 with windows rotated.)
BadBoyBill
07-20-2009, 06:09 PM
Actually I think there was one other guy that did the same thing, glad it works now.