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Ggallery
02-03-2010, 09:46 PM
The FTP is very chaotic. After relying on only it for a month, I discovered I was reinventing the wheel on many things after going thru the download sections of the regular website. I swear there are scores of things on the site that arent in the ftp. They could be there but the directory structure of the FTP is very daunting. Too many root folders with subfolders and so on. I strongly feel it discourages people from uploading and participating in the ftp side of development. I argue that there should only be a folder for each system, and people should upload their additions into the applicable system folder. They just need to add their handle into the file or folder they're adding instead of create their own main folder with subfolders for whatever they have to offer. This should be a rule, perhaps. Currently it appears people have been dumping stuff in at random. I argue they NEED a clear framework to avoid their own confusion.

The HS directory structure is nice and clean, simple. All laid out with each system having its own folder to keep the mess it entails discreet from the others. (except i dont think the Databases folder needs subfolders for each system!)

The FTP on the other hand is a handful of folders with seemingly non-sensical contents within each. For instance, files related to any one system may be spread out across the spectrum, in the form of files, folders and ZIP's. I had to dig deep into places I didnt expect to notice things... I didnt expect.

What I propose is structuring the FTP just as we find it when we install HS: a folder for each system, and some extras such as "Main Menu". Perhaps only allow those systems currently found in a recent HS install in the main root, with an "Others" folder that has seperate folders for each system people are trying to work on not yet 'official'. (But I dont suggest having 3 seperate root folders how we find in HS, where it IS needed. I dont think thats needed in the FTP which is just a collection of HS related data.)

This would allow people to add their different XML files, and so on, for others to reference, add upon and use. With little text files for each system containing AHK code for hyperlaunch, etc, there would be less NEW threads asking what code others have used. This trend would also support better collaboration.

I think this alone would encourage people to contribute. But my other idea is to add 'public' UPLOAD folder with anonymous access for people to upload stuff. I think this would get their foot in the door to want to then donate to get to the other stuff, especially if they could see the other stuff just not download any of it with their anon logins.

My guess is the restructuring part would take less than an hour, which wouldnt bother the flow of peoples access much.

As long as peoples additions are properly named this system would be ideal. For instance, current having a databases folder with subfolders containing default XML's is redundant. All that is really needed is each XML in the main root folders titled 'etc DEFAULT etc', zipped up even perhaps. I'm sure you get the idea. I'd be willing to help.

Dazz
02-03-2010, 10:00 PM
Along with the release of the next HyperSpin version; the FTP is also on the long to-do list. I am currently working with Shimoda to completely re-organize the FTP. The current FTP allows for people to upload files to wherever they want. This is what I think causes the chaos at times. This is not going to be allowed when we re-build the FTP site. Users will be able to upload to a single area and FTP admins will verify the files and place them in the correct location on the official FTP downloads.

There is much work that still needs to be done and right now the FTP is a bit lower on our list. However, it will be re-done in the not too distant future.

SophT
02-04-2010, 12:23 AM
754 ftw!

Jochitko
02-07-2010, 04:39 AM
I can't seem to find any wheelart, boxart or any of that stuff on the FTP now :S Where are the things? Yhanks in advance

OnlyIsrael
02-07-2010, 10:32 AM
I can't seem to find any wheelart, boxart or any of that stuff on the FTP now :S Where are the things? Yhanks in advance

check in the systems folder. Almost (if not all) the things from the completed and wip folders were moved to there with its corresponding system. A very nice setup once you get used to it
Cheers

Jochitko
02-07-2010, 12:31 PM
check in the systems folder. Almost (if not all) the things from the completed and wip folders were moved to there with its corresponding system. A very nice setup once you get used to it
Cheers

Thanks alot :) Bte, just added you'r PC-Engine wheels to HS and they make the wheel look really nice, I love them :D

mr_tap
02-07-2010, 02:57 PM
I think the ftp is a lot better now than a few weeks ago, nightmare then.

shimoda
02-07-2010, 04:47 PM
Please bear in mind with the FTP site that it will be continually changing until the release of the new version of HS. With that in mind, some changes will take place behind the scenes. Please don't worry about if things do go missing, if they aren't moved to the Systems folder they'll be back near immediately. WIP folders, etc. will be moving in the future as Dazz mentioned. The new setup should be much easier to navigate and find files and information. Most everything will be set based upon system in the future but there will be more on this in the future.