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mildanti
03-09-2010, 07:03 PM
Is it me or is the FTP server always maxed out, both for hyperspin and emumovies

BadBoyBill
03-09-2010, 07:05 PM
Theres about 80 posts on this. I mean threads.

dpar
03-09-2010, 07:05 PM
Yeah gonna be that way for a little while.

mildanti
03-09-2010, 07:11 PM
Sorry about the 81th post but didn't know if it was my problem or not

shateredsoul
03-09-2010, 07:23 PM
any idea of when the number of simultaneous logins will be increased?

Dazz
03-09-2010, 07:25 PM
This is happening because people don't know common FTP etiquette. Download what you need at the time and don't queue the whole fucking FTP folder for download on your 56k connection.

DynamiteSJ
03-09-2010, 07:32 PM
yup.. peeps gotta be downloadin the whole ftp file structure... good thing i was all setup from .8 and didnt take much to merge everything over

Garebear911
03-09-2010, 07:56 PM
there needs to be a sticky about forum and FTP etiquette. I browse through the new threads and it's always the same stuff over and over...

Secret80'sMan
03-09-2010, 08:04 PM
+1 on the FTP etiquette sticky, Dazz any chance of posting one or as an announcement similar to what you did with the cookies messsage?

shateredsoul
03-09-2010, 09:10 PM
yes that's a great idea!

Also, I really do think keeping the WIP folder seperate from the gold member folder may help people figure out that they don't need EVERYTHING. Emumovies is going through the same thing..

let me get on! gosh darn it

ashurax
03-09-2010, 09:28 PM
snifff, My koolkbez nintendo theme ! :(

Garebear911
03-09-2010, 11:29 PM
Ive never been much of a forum guy but ever since I've gotten on here now I can understand why people get flamed for asking the same questions and never searching (on other sites, never here)...
but I guess a lot of people are new to the forum thing like I was at one time and don't get what the big deal is...

shimoda
03-10-2010, 02:43 AM
Just an FYFI! DON'T Just grab the whole Gold Member Downloads folder! The Art WIP folder is source material that NOONE EXCEPT those working on specific art projects needs. It is the biggest folder of all. If you must grab, depending on preferences, lots at once, go into the folders and please be a bit more selective (at least for now, grab the whole thing in a month when it's back to normal). The most common items will be wheel art, box art, and MAME themes. If you grab the WHOLE Themes and Wheel Art folders that's about 4 GB. If you grab the box art folders tack on another 2-3GB. If you grab the source art folder you're looking at 7-8 extra UNNEEDED GB. Please take into consideration.

SophT
03-10-2010, 03:06 AM
don't queue the whole fucking FTP folder for download on your 56k connection.


Hey I have a 386kbp/s DSL line- that's like 6x faster!

/sadly not joking :(

shateredsoul
03-10-2010, 09:20 AM
Here's the deal..

why don't we create a hierarchy based on connection speed

T3s will be on the top
then T1s
then Cable
then DSL
and finally dial up

T3s get priority and get to rule and logon whenever they want since they can be in and out in a jiffy, dialups will be limited to 5 slots, and cable and dsl will have to play a minigame challenge, the winner gets to logon

Aabra
03-10-2010, 09:53 AM
While you can't very well test the connection speed for everybody who connects, you can in fact create different logins.

I honestly believe that we need 2 generic logins.

1 generic login that allows you to view directories and browse files, but not actually download anything. Obviously create a high limit for the number of these users.

Another generic login that allows you to upload but not download. I've got tons of movie themes that I want to upload but can't because I can't get into the ftp. :(

Dazz
03-10-2010, 10:54 AM
While you can't very well test the connection speed for everybody who connects, you can in fact create different logins.

I honestly believe that we need 2 generic logins.

1 generic login that allows you to view directories and browse files, but not actually download anything. Obviously create a high limit for the number of these users.

Another generic login that allows you to upload but not download. I've got tons of movie themes that I want to upload but can't because I can't get into the ftp. :(Because FTP doesn't work like this... FTP is ALL based on the folders and the folder permissions.

I will however open the downloads section to new uploads.

zaktallica
03-10-2010, 12:49 PM
Ya this shits getting irritating I have been waiting two damn weeks to get on the damn thing..

doxiedoggie2358
03-10-2010, 06:34 PM
I would think you could set a time limit on how long people can stay on the FTP.....Plus almost all FTP programs will pick up where you left off when you were booted.....Just an idea.....:shot:

shateredsoul
03-10-2010, 08:52 PM
but then it wouldn't be unlimited access.. would it?

Macavity
03-10-2010, 08:58 PM
It's kind of a crappy situation, and I appreciate the mods being patient with (apparently) a ton of threads and PMs, my own included.

Tiering the connections by speed is a bad idea, though. We all donated, we should all get the same service.

What should be done is the etiquette thread, and a few days later, the identification of problem users (downloading the whole filestructure, etc) and direct action done to them. Nothing severe, maybe like a two day probation from the FTP for wasting of resources.

DynamiteSJ
03-10-2010, 09:17 PM
as much as it sucks... patience is the key

SophT
03-11-2010, 01:10 AM
1 generic login that allows you to view directories and browse files, but not actually download anything. Obviously create a high limit for the number of these users.


Well, I don't know about FTP- but if it's based off of UNIX permissions you have 3 options (technically 4):

0rwx (and combinations there of), (ok and t for SSH). the point is if you create a 'read only' account like 444- read=download so it doesn't help.

SORHP
03-12-2010, 05:17 AM
Here's the deal..
cable and dsl will have to play a minigame challenge, the winner gets to logon

This idea make me laugh very much!, just imagine... damn! I couldn't run through the first level in smb fast enough 10 times in a row! now I'll never get logged on! why luigi? why do you have a gimp leg?!?

shimoda
03-12-2010, 09:35 AM
For those of you looking to download any of the wheel packs or box art sets, they have been restored on the download pages. Check it out and get them now!

NorwichRetro
03-12-2010, 11:22 AM
Hi all, I've not had reason to post before as Hyperspin is a cool front-end that has been a dream to use but I have to admit that the FTP situation is really started to become annoying.

I'd managed to get on a couple of times in the first week after 1.0 went live but ever since I've had the maximum user count problem every single time. It doesn't matter at what time I try (day or night) - and I'm in the UK my attempts aren't always at 'core' times for the US.

I think that the powers that be need to work out a better way of granting access. I have this nasty feeling that people are deciding to download EVERYTHING now as they don't think they'll get back in if they need more later. I've had 250kb of files in my download queue for two weeks and just can't get them.

I hope something is sorted as this is a black mark on what has been a top notch product so far.

Regards,
Gary.

Garebear911
03-12-2010, 11:59 AM
Hyperspin is a FREE service, the only way it's living is the money we donate and the money out of BBB's pocket (and like one ad). Having all this stuff isn't cheap so unless everyone wants to donate an assload of money to help pay for the site then quite complaining.

shimoda
03-12-2010, 12:33 PM
I think that the powers that be need to work out a better way of granting access. I have this nasty feeling that people are deciding to download EVERYTHING now as they don't think they'll get back in if they need more later.

Regards,
Gary.

Hopefully this isn't the case, but I moved the very large WIP folder that had no finished product but is a working folder to keep this from happening.

There isn't any other way to grant access. We can't filter times for folks on the ftp; it doesn't work that way. Period. We all understand that this is annoying and that you've donated and expect service, and you have the same access as the rest of us. As was mentioned in another post, even admins and team members, myself included, have had troubles getting on when we need to update things for the entire community and that has kept the downloads page from being as complete as we'd like it to be.

Please folks, stop asking for differentiated ftp access and stratified memberships regarding the ftp. The ftp protocol doesn't work that way. And while we realize how much you want your HyperSpin maxed out with all the goodies available here, if you already had box, cart and flyer art, you DO NOT need to redownload this stuff. You only need to get themes.

NorwichRetro
03-12-2010, 01:13 PM
I understand the comments made by the last posts but I've had my FTP client trying reconnecting for the last three hours as I have for pretty much every night for the last two weeks.

Now unless hundreds of people are now using Hyperspin for the first time (which would be great news) and they need everything from scratch, well that is fair enough but I had to get my themes from the website and the last few small files I needed are still waiting from ftp.

Sure I could have downloaded everything when I had the chance but I'm not selfish. Somebody mentioned looking at the logs had having a quiet word with people who are downloading gigs of stuff and unfortunately it may be a case of self-policing access. As with so many things on the web it is the minority spoiling it for the majority. I'll just keep waiting and waiting..........

theob42
03-13-2010, 11:35 AM
yup same, still waiting ...

shimoda
03-13-2010, 11:59 AM
number of users was upped again today