Commando - commando(RetroBorg_09-17-2008)

[RetroBorg]

Commando

As requested by TK375, hope you like this.

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3903/commando640x480kl7.jpg

The animation is Commando logo grows X, the commando firing eases in from the right and the enemy dude firing eases in from left.

I still have a lot of work to do as far as tidying up all the soldier pics, looking for some suggestions on the background and anything else.

[BadBoyBill]

All the colors looked kinda washed out in the screenshot, like the logo looks pastel kinda instead of real yellow. Maybe a levels or curves adjustment. Background seems kinda plain for this theme knowing theres some good art for this game.

[RetroBorg]

All the colors looked kinda washed out in the screenshot, like the logo looks pastel kinda instead of real yellow. Maybe a levels or curves adjustment.

I'm still to play around with the levels on all the pics, having said that I thought the yellow looked okay to me but you seem to have a much better eye than me when it come to these things, so I just had a bit of a play with the logo and sure enough I've been able to improve it. :)


Background seems kinda plain for this theme knowing theres some good art for this game.

As far as the background goes the brown is just temporary, any specific good art for this game you're alluding to?

[tk375]

That's a pretty good job, I like it! Yes, Maybe it could use a better background and that soldier from the Flyer.

[tk375]

and Thank you again Retroborg for listening to your fans hehehe, This Weekend I'll be getting ahead of my work and hopefully I will surprise you guys with some kick ass themes.

[BadBoyBill]

Hey retroborg, Im not trying to one up you here on this theme or nothing but I couldnt get the feel for commando from the theme and I knew there was artwork out there so after a quick search, I just slapped together something real quick, I know it would have been a little tough for me to describe how I really pictured someone doing this theme eventually but I had a rough idea in my head. I think the art you used was from the japanese version of the game and I think the american art is much better.

http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/examples/images/Commando.jpg

[RetroBorg]

Hey retroborg, Im not trying to one up you here on this theme or nothing

Well I think you did. :D



but I couldnt get the feel for commando from the theme and I knew there was artwork out there so after a quick search, I just slapped together something real quick, I know it would have been a little tough for me to describe how I really pictured someone doing this theme eventually but I had a rough idea in my head. I think the art you used was from the japanese version of the game and I think the american art is much better.
http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/examples/images/Commando.jpg

No doubt the American artwork is much better.

[EvilDindon]

I f you want to make an alternative to the excellent BBB commando theme, maybe you should use the capcom's original commando logo from the tafa flyer ?

[Harry2280]

While the brown in yours is dull, I like the concept RetroBorg and prefer the Japanese artwork.

I do like the the logo from the tafa flyer as shown by EvilDindon.

Being that I am not (always) a purest, I think a cross between RetroBorgs foreground (only brightened up) with BadBoyBill's background would be cool.

That's my 2 cents

[RetroBorg]

Thanks guys for all your suggestions, seeing that I've already started I'm going to finish mine, change the logo to the one EvilDindon suggested so it's a pure Capcom Commando theme, then people can have a choice between Capcom and Data East versions, the Capcom rom is commando and the Data East one is commandu.

I assume you are going to upload yours Bill?

I'll tidy up my images, though they will never look as good as the Data East graphics they are of a much higher quality.

I just need to workout what I'm going to do with the background.

[RetroBorg]

I haven't cleaned up images yet but have made the following changes:

Added Capcom Commando logo.

Added Capcom logo.

Changed brown background to blue sky and stoney brown ground like game.

Removed a plam tree and added another machine shooting enemy dude.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/835/commando640x480ie0.jpg

Is this theme looking any better or worse?

[EvilDindon]

It IS better.

Still missing a lil' something but don't know what, but I like it.

I think I will install both BBB and RB versions for world an US versions, just for the "eye candy" of my FE !

[RetroBorg]

It IS better.

Still missing a lil' something but don't know what, but I like it.



Yeah it's still missing something, I hope I find it. :)

[EvilDindon]

Maybe one or two vehicles (jeep, helicopter...) and/or one or two bunkers ?

Maybe you should add a lil' vegetation on the ground and rocks just like in the game ?

But I dunno if the capcom flyer, marquee or sideart (or cpo art) have those items...

And what about consoles or computers box arts ? I think there have been a NES port and an Amiga or Atari ST one.

[RetroBorg]

Maybe one or two vehicles (jeep, helicopter...) and/or one or two bunkers ?

Maybe you should add a lil' vegetation on the ground and rocks just like in the game ?

But I dunno if the capcom flyer, marquee or sideart (or cpo art) have those items...

And what about consoles or computers box arts ? I think there have been a NES port and an Amiga or Atari ST one.

All good ideas I'll check it out.

Here is the pic again for those who can't view images on ImageShack due to that site being blocked where they are employed.

[billpa]

I am personally more of a fan of BBBs one but I do like this one as well. A couple of things which I think will help. Right now you have the ground stop and then there is sky and the logo fits in there nice and neat with no overlapping. You might want to bump the trees up so they obscure the logo slightly or maybe even bring the whole ground up so its slightly behind the commando logo or both. The other thing is since the characters are small and they are all the same size, it looks flat. So try and mix it up a bit by adding an element which looks like its more in the foreground?

These are just ideas...I do like the idea of multiple versions of a theme. The more choices the better!

[The Loafer]

Thanks Retroborg :). The pic does look pretty good.

Question: Is your placement of objects reflecting your using the "hide wheel" option?

I agree, needs a bit more on the background, maybe rocks/bushes. I don't think the best thing is to add more people, but rather more background object to liven up a bit the background (the ground detail) itself.

[RetroBorg]

Thanks Retroborg :). The pic does look pretty good.

Question: Is your placement of objects reflecting your using the "hide wheel" option?

Yeah, I prefer the hide the wheel look, it gives you more room for the themes. I will try to make most of my themes so they look good either way people like it by putting the video on the right hand side but with this theme due to the angle on the characters I think video in the middle is better.



I agree, needs a bit more on the background, maybe rocks/bushes. I don't think the best thing is to add more people, but rather more background object to liven up a bit the background (the ground detail) itself.

Yeah I agree, got to find me some rocks and bushes.

[RetroBorg]

I'm just playing around in photoshop a bit and added angled walls that follow the lines of the logo, what do you think?

[EvilDindon]

I think you should dig a bit your wall in the middle to let some more space for a bigger video, and so, make some 3d effect inside the two gates, as your wall looks rather thick like that.

Also, I really recommand to take down on the ground that general, caus' he doesn't look really vaillant upon that tree.

Anyway, I have to admit it's getting better(Paul Mc Cartney)

PS : What happened to the video borders ?

[tk375]

No my Friend, thank you for trying, just don't let Badboybill impress you with his amazing skills hehehe. I like them both but whichever you make I know when you show us the final product, it is going to be great!

Thanks again!

[tk375]

your latest work is starting to look a lot better!

I dig it!

[RetroBorg]

I think you should dig a bit your wall in the middle to let some more space for a bigger video, and so, make some 3d effect inside the two gates, as your wall looks rather thick like that.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying there?



Also, I really recommand to take down on the ground that general, caus' he doesn't look really vaillant upon that tree.

I'll just move the tree.


Anyway, I have to admit it's getting better(Paul Mc Cartney) I'm not to sure about that.


PS : What happened to the video borders ?

This is just a picture from Photoshop, the end product will have a border.

[joebells]

I think its coming along very nicely but if you could possibly give the wall a "3d" look, if you look at the arches they just look to flat, kind of make it look like the wall has some depth to it. I think that would pick up the current look it has nicely.

[RetroBorg]

I think its coming along very nicely but if you could possibly give the wall a "3d" look, if you look at the arches they just look to flat, kind of make it look like the wall has some depth to it. I think that would pick up the current look it has nicely. Okay, I getcha.