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RetroBorg
09-29-2008, 04:01 AM
Star Wars

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2294/starwarssx7.jpg

Animation is the Star Wars logo (grow centre shrink), video comes up (ease) from bottom, X-Wing is chased by Tie Fighter from right (arc grow) and Darth Vader's fighter (arc grow) from left and passes right between X-Wing and Tie Fighter.

The video has lots of cool speech from the game not to mention cool tunes, it looks better running of course.

I haven't touched up any of the art yet, they're just how I found them.

As usual, opinions and suggestions are always appreciated.
EvilDindon
09-29-2008, 04:39 AM
I think it's pretty perfect.

Perhaps you could find a better quality star wars logo ?

PS : How is your commando theme ?
RetroBorg
09-29-2008, 04:45 AM
I think it's pretty perfect.

Thanks, needs a little work though.


Perhaps you could find a better quality star wars logo ?

I'm pretty sure it's meant to be like that, I'll have to look around a bit for some other examples.


PS : How is your commando theme ? Very, very slowly, I've cleaned up a few images, I have Tuesday arvo off so I might get motivated to finish it.
FatNasty
09-29-2008, 05:05 AM
Nice Work.
EvilDindon
09-29-2008, 05:08 AM
RB is back !!!!
hollywood
09-29-2008, 06:08 AM
Very nice. I agree....I think the logo is supposed to look like that.
BadBoyBill
09-29-2008, 06:48 AM
I retraced this logo out in illustrator a few weeks ago so its perfect quality. If you want to use it let me know.
RetroBorg
09-29-2008, 02:14 PM
I retraced this logo out in illustrator a few weeks ago so its perfect quality. If you want to use it let me know.

Yes please, I'll PM you my email address.

Thanks.

Phil
tk375
09-29-2008, 03:51 PM
The Force is Strong with this one.
RetroBorg
09-30-2008, 01:12 AM
Made some changes:

Added Bill's superior vector traced Star Wars logo.

Added vector looking Death Star (let me know if you like or dislike this) and Atari logo to background.

Changed animation of the fighters, I now have the X-Wing Fighter being chased by Darth Vader and two escort Tie Fighters (arc grow), first from right then from left, this way there is always some action happenning on screen.

Looking for any other suggestions as I still have one artwork1 spot empty, if I can't think of anything I'll animate the Atari logo.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3015/starwars640x480yv4.jpg
EvilDindon
09-30-2008, 02:44 AM
Awesome changes !

For artwork 1 : What about a dark vador face fading out slowly on the right of the logo ?
RetroBorg
09-30-2008, 02:46 AM
Awesome changes !

For artwork 1 : What about a dark vador face fading out slowly on the right of the logo ?

Sounds nice, I'll give it a go.
RetroBorg
09-30-2008, 03:02 AM
Here it is:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/396/starwars640x480st8.jpg

Do you think it needs to be darker?

How about the size?
EvilDindon
09-30-2008, 03:17 AM
I think it's too precise.

Maybe add a small blur and/or a 40-50% transparency.

You should increase it a bit too.
RetroBorg
09-30-2008, 04:55 AM
I think it's too precise.

Maybe add a small blur and/or a 40-50% transparency.

You should increase it a bit too.

Okay I added a blur and increased size, I think I have the size is right, just wondering if it's too dark?

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3968/starwars640x480uj2.jpg
EvilDindon
09-30-2008, 05:59 AM
Yeah the size is good but i think you should lighten it a bit and make it a bit transparent, like a vision in the sky ?
sp33dy
09-30-2008, 06:22 AM
Looking very crisp
tk375
09-30-2008, 08:44 AM
You could probably add some blasting effect or extra sound for the game, like R2D2 talking or the Darth Vader Breathing sound effect to it, also, some other Ships flying accross would be just great! please please!
billpa
09-30-2008, 03:56 PM
Although I like both of them, I actually like the original logo better. It matches the style of the xwing and tie fighter artwork. The second one is a good trace but it actually looks too clean compared to the other artwork. JMO.

BTW, I am really impressed with all the themes created lately. I have been out of commission (back injury) for the past week and tonight was the first night I can sit down and check out the new stuff. Looking good!
tk375
09-30-2008, 04:27 PM
Hope you get better soon Billpa. no wonder I had not seen any of your work lately.
The Loafer
09-30-2008, 06:00 PM
The theme is great but I'm not a fan of the vader mask appearing out of thin air, seems out of place with the rest of the theme. What about random explosions relevant to the tie fighter / x wing fighter battle?
RetroBorg
09-30-2008, 09:03 PM
I have been out of commission (back injury) for the past week and tonight was the first night I can sit down and check out the new stuff. Looking good!

Hope you're feeling better mate.
RetroBorg
09-30-2008, 09:04 PM
Okay folks need opinions:

Old logo or new logo?

Darth Vader mask in or out?
BadBoyBill
09-30-2008, 09:13 PM
I'd take vader out, and either logo looks good to me.
EvilDindon
09-30-2008, 11:02 PM
Yeah maybe the vador's face is too realistic compared to the other elements of the theme.

The random explosions on screen is a good idea, but you need a .swf file for that !
RetroBorg
09-30-2008, 11:12 PM
The random explosions on screen is a good idea, but you need a .swf file for that !

That's beyond my current capablities.

They would have be special space like explosions too.
RetroBorg
10-01-2008, 12:12 AM
Playing around with perhaps having an Imperial Destroyer slowly cruise (12 seconds) back and forth across the screen in artwork1, so it's behind the logo but in front of the background stuff like the Death Star.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3696/starwars640x480uo0.jpg

Any opinions, okay, no good, too big, too small, put it in front of the video etc.

Quick question for Bill, how come in HyperTheme the maximum time for an animations is 5 seconds but you can manually edit the theme.xml for whatever you like?
RetroBorg
10-01-2008, 01:23 AM
You could probably add some blasting effect or extra sound for the game, like R2D2 talking or the Darth Vader Breathing sound effect to it, also, some other Ships flying accross would be just great! please please!

On the video the speech is "Red Five, we're going in" and "Use the force Luke", I do have all wave samples from the game so I could add some but I'm not really sure how the sound bit works. You can't seem to add sound in HyperTheme, I've tried putting sound files in the sound folder both mp3 and wav format but no go, I'm assuming as there are no other sound files in the folder that this feature hasn't been implimented yet.
EvilDindon
10-01-2008, 01:24 AM
Good !

The size of the imperial cruiser is good. I'd like seeing it inverted though, for the symetry of the theme, and to not hide the death star.

Edit :
oops I just noticed it was animated and chasing both sides. Mea culpa.
RetroBorg
10-01-2008, 01:31 AM
Good !

The size of the imperial cruiser is good. I'd like seeing it inverted though, for the symetry of the theme, and to not hide the death star.

Edit :
oops I just noticed it was animated and chasing both sides. Mea culpa.

It doesn't look as good in the picture like that as it is covering the Death Star, looks much better animated.
EvilDindon
10-01-2008, 02:14 AM
I think you're pretty ready for un upload ...

PS : I prefer the vector-traced logo, much cleaner.
RetroBorg
10-01-2008, 02:20 AM
I prefer the vector-traced logo, much cleaner.

Yeah, I prefer that one too.
tk375
10-01-2008, 06:57 AM
man it starting to look incredible! no matter if you add more sound or not. you are doing a great Job!
hollywood
10-01-2008, 09:51 AM
This theme looks great! The star destroyer looks much better....the Darth Vader head looked too much out of place.
The Loafer
10-01-2008, 03:20 PM
On the issue of explosions, maybe ask whoever did the missile command explosions if you can use them here. But even without the explosions, the theme looks great!
RetroBorg
10-01-2008, 05:17 PM
This theme looks great! The star destroyer looks much better....the Darth Vader head looked too much out of place.

Thanks for the compliments.

I think the Imperial Star Destroyer looks better than the Vader head, I think the Vader head would of looked good with the right artwork or if I had better Photoshop skills, I think the Vader head on the Star Wars flyers looks pretty cool.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5184/flyer01yv7.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9002/flyer02ua4.jpg
BadBoyBill
10-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Dude you should have the ship come in from the right and hover while the deathstar comes in from the left in the back behind the video(artwork1), it will look like the ship is headed for the deathstar and flying. That would be way sick. The big graphics would look awesome to. Check out my interstellar theme for daphne, I did something similar.
RetroBorg
10-01-2008, 06:29 PM
The random explosions on screen is a good idea, but you need a .swf file for that !


On the issue of explosions, maybe ask whoever did the missile command explosions if you can use them here. But even without the explosions, the theme looks great!

Did someone mention explosions?

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6862/starwars640x480cm6.jpg

You got it!

BadBoyBill has been kind enough to let me steal his Missile Command particle explosions.

I think they really add to the theme.

I'm pretty much thinking this theme is done, unfortunatley I've run out of time and got to go to work, hopefully I'll upload tonight or around this time tommorrow.
The Loafer
10-01-2008, 06:32 PM
:) Looks fantastic!!!
RetroBorg
10-01-2008, 06:33 PM
Dude you should have the ship come in from the right and hover while the deathstar comes in from the left in the back behind the video(artwork1), it will look like the ship is headed for the deathstar and flying. That would be way sick. The big graphics would look awesome to. Check out my interstellar theme for daphne, I did something similar.

That sounds pretty cool, I'll check out your Interstellar theme and have a play around with that tommorow.

I knew I was premature saying this theme was done. :)
Captain Flint
10-01-2008, 06:50 PM
Being a huge starwars fan... this is the coolest thing I have every seen...
tk375
10-01-2008, 11:37 PM
I love the way its looking except for the purple DeathStar. can you change the color?
RetroBorg
10-02-2008, 04:26 AM
I love the way its looking except for the purple DeathStar. can you change the color?

Well I thought it was blue, maybe Bill was right, I am colour blind.

I have now made it more blue (I think).


Dude you should have the ship come in from the right and hover while the deathstar comes in from the left in the back behind the video(artwork1), it will look like the ship is headed for the deathstar and flying. That would be way sick. The big graphics would look awesome to. Check out my interstellar theme for daphne, I did something similar.
I love the way its looking except for the purple DeathStar. can you change the color?

I ended up going with the Imperial Star Destroyer doing the hover thing like you suggested, I like the idea of that being on the screen all the time.

I was wondering if it was possible in future releases if you could get the hover to start hovering straight away, as there seems to be a bit of a lag for the hover to kick in.

Also it would be cool if hover had the command like hover="20" (20 might be pixels) and that controlled how much the object moved in the hover, anyway just an idea.

I tried the Deathstar moving in from the left and that looked really good but I ended up putting it back into the background as I needed that artwork space for the fighters coming from the right side, main reason was with the fighters coming from just the left side there are moments when nothing is on the screen, yet the explosions are still going off, didn't quite look right, but with the fighters alternating from both sides of the screen it means there is nearly always something zooming across the screen giving the explosions more authenticity.

Anyway enough dribble, unless anyone can think of anything more to change etc this is what I think I'll go with.

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6081/starwars640x480vp7.jpg
scrapple
10-02-2008, 06:00 AM
Being a huge starwars fan... this is the coolest thing I have every seen...

hyperbole?

so your saying this theme is cooler than episode IV?

:burnout:
Captain Flint
10-02-2008, 06:18 AM
hyperbole?

so your saying this theme is cooler than episode IV?

:burnout:

Yeah... that is what I am saying... who needs the actual movie when I can just watch this theme... over and over and over. :flute:
tk375
10-02-2008, 08:26 AM
The DeathStar is more like a ligth blue. I like it anyways! I like this theme better than Episode III :dancing2:
EvilDindon
10-02-2008, 11:10 AM
I prefer eating a cheesecake instead of watching themes.

(It was just to say nothing)
tk375
10-02-2008, 01:53 PM
how about if you do it again? hehehe, I am just KIDDING! I love the way it turn out. I love this theme! Read Below!
RetroBorg
10-02-2008, 02:46 PM
Uploaded, you can get it here: http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=440

Thanks for everyones input and special thanks to BadBoyBill for tracing the Star Wars logo and letting me use his Missile Command particle explosions.
RetroBorg
10-02-2008, 02:50 PM
I was wondering if it was possible in future releases if you could get the hover to start hovering straight away, as there seems to be a bit of a lag for the hover to kick in.


I just noticed this lag occurred when using the ease animation, if you select animation none and have the artwork starting from the right or left etc. it hovers straight away.
BadBoyBill
10-02-2008, 05:11 PM
"none" doesnt define a linear animation it refers to no animation so if your using "none" then start should be "none also. None just means the artwork appears and doesnt animate.
RetroBorg
10-02-2008, 06:13 PM
Silly me forgot to manually add the particle explosions to the zip file for download.

I've now added it, sorry.
RetroBorg
10-02-2008, 06:19 PM
"none" doesnt define a linear animation it refers to no animation so if your using "none" then start should be "none also. None just means the artwork appears and doesnt animate.

Perhaps I explained it incorrectly.

Originally for the artwork1 (Imperial Star Destroyer) I had the line:

<artwork1 x="569" y="145" time="10" delay ="0" type="ease" start="right" rest="hover"/>

This had a lag between the animation stopping and hover starting.

I then changed the line to:

<artwork1 x="569" y="145" time="10" delay ="0" start="right" rest="hover"/>

With this the Imperial Death Destroyer still eases in from the right but also starts hovering straight after reaching it's location.